[D-fendr]

I marvel as you continue to exhibit what you hold does not exist. I appreciate your testimony, but am almost unable to keep from asking: why did you choose to tell me this?

Quite frankly, there isn't a good answer for this other than the Reformed view.

You need to get out more. :)

If the view includes salvation by election and denial of free will, the flaws bring the whole thing down.

Back to our original point, I don't think the criteria "makes more sense to Harley" is a valid one for me accepting your view. But if that's your choice..

I'm gone for a while. As always, it's great to see you on a thread.

And thank you for choosing to participate in this discussion. :)

[HarleyD]

There is no such thing as free will. There is God’s will and there is man’s will. God’s will is good. Man’s will is against God’s will and is evil. Otherwise it would be God’s will.

Tell me. If you have free will, then why don’t you do God’s will every single moment of your Christian life? After all, you ARE free to choose aren’t you?