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MSNBC's O'Donnell on Romney's "Mormon Problem": How Moronism Was "Invented"
MSNBC via YouTube ^ | April 4, 2012 | Lawrence O'Donnell

Posted on 04/07/2012 2:48:46 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_5hww4HNDQ

And so begins the MSM turn on the Republican nominee. And as much as I hate to credit the MSM, and particularly O'Donnell, I cannot find anything in his rant that is inaccurate, other than the number of wives Joseph Smith claimed. O'Donnell says 48, but I believe the most consistent number put forward by historians is 27. On the other hand, Brigham Young claimed 56 wives, so O'Donnell is certainly within range.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Other Christian; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: 2012; inman; media; mormon; romney; wehatemormons
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh for crying out loud.

I am for DEFEATING OBAMA.

I can take direction from the owner of this site just fine thank you, and have chosen my words deliberately exactly because of his clearly stated position.

Let’s not devolve into groupthink please.

The name of this site ... starts with the word “Free”.


61 posted on 04/07/2012 5:55:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Kazan
So, tell us why, then, Romney is an improvement.

The Supreme Court for one. There is a very good chance that the next President will be replacing at least Ginsburg. She is far left, loony liberal and even replacing her with a squishy Kennedy-like moderate would be a VAST improvement. And ofcourse there is the chance the next President will replace one of the conservatives if they get sick, die, etc. Just the chance to replace Ginsburg with even a centrist will shift the balance on the court. And considering conservatives have had some hard learned lessons about court appointments, it is even possible Romney would be forced to cater to the right (as Presidents often do with court appointments) and nominate some real conservatives.

I get your long view reasoning. I understand the point that sometimes being in opposition is better than being stuck having to defend a standard bearer that doesn't really represent the base. We had a lot of that under Bush when he was busy pushing NCLB and an entire new prescription drug entitlement.

Unfortunately, I've lived too many places in the world and seen too much damage caused by split opposition that couldn't stop a leftist because they refused to unite. Times change, the issues at the forefront of politics will change, there is just no telling what the next 4 years will bring. All we may get out of Romney is someone that slows down the march to the left. Quite frankly, given the choice in front of us - that is enough for me. Willard is better than Obama if for no other reason than he answers to a different constituency. He may do 7 bad things for every 3 he does good. With Obama it will always just be 10 bad things. In life, sometimes you have to be pragmatic.

It made sense to me to be fiercely opposed to Romney in the primaries. We lost. We have a nominee. He is a RINO. I don't buy your argument that he IS a liberal. I think he was a liberal when it was politically expedient, I think he will be more centrist to center right as a President relying on Republicans for support. Sitting out because a mushy moderate won the nomination is no better than mushy moderates sitting out because a conservative won the nomination. We have a 2 party system with no possibility of coalition building. Most of the time the average voter will be forced to vote for the proverbial lesser of 2 evils. Try to change the system if you want, but until then this is the reality.

62 posted on 04/07/2012 5:59:34 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: greyfoxx39

Paranoia is starting to set in. I have not been paying attention but it looks like a new missionary group has been called to serve. Love it when that happens. Tick, tick tick.


63 posted on 04/07/2012 6:05:29 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

Have you ever considered, many of us just don’t want Obama re-elected?

Seriously.

It’s baffling to me, some could actual consider that to be a preferred outcome.

Then, many of those same would accuse anyone who wants a GOP victory over the most wild-eyed socialist bunch of dictator wannabes in American history, of drinking the kool-aid.

Wow.

It’s not always about Romney. For many of us, it’s simply about defeating Obama. No more, no less.

Is opposing Obama, to become politically incorrect here? That would be truly weird.

Troubling, and weird.


64 posted on 04/07/2012 6:13:45 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Longbow1969

MSNBC’s O’Donnell is a lying sack of you know what. Why would you believe this and not another thing he has to say?

To start with Joesph Smith was 14 and living with his parents when it all started. The 27 number is close, My G. G. G. grandmother was one of them. There where many many more women than men and they sure were not going to run a Singles Club. Something had to be done.

Some of you that have so much time to bash everything Mitt and Mormon, how do you find to save your own souls? Or is that not a problem?

This might come as a surprise to many of you basher’s BUTT on Sunday or any other day we never ever mention other religions other than the Jews in a historical sense only. We work on saving our own souls and not trying to say clever things about people we do not know.

Mitt Romney most likely did not play baseball in the street or hide and seek after dark, BUTT he was born here and grew up in country. That is a giant leap forward for the next four years. Rick Santorum while he pounds his chest about being a Conservative, has all the stage presence of a guy running for town council in a small town.

The object is to throw the BUM out, NOBAMA in 12


65 posted on 04/07/2012 6:21:39 PM PDT by DeweyShootem
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To: DeweyShootem
MSNBC’s O’Donnell is a lying sack of you know what. Why would you believe this and not another thing he has to say?

I agree. Why are you posting this to me? I think MSDNC, O'Donnell and all this Mormon bashing is disgraceful.

66 posted on 04/07/2012 6:28:08 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Utah Binger; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; ..
You seem to be missing the point that Romney doesn't stand the chance of a snowball in hell of defeating Obama.

It will be the epitome of stupidity to have a member of a racist church running against a black man, as we have been saying since '07. Do you think the wail of "we stopped that racism in 1978" is gonna be a winner? FAIL

Has the John Derbyshire flap completely escaped your notice? It is currently in Breaking News. What about Trayvon?

Parting Ways [National Review fires John Derbyshire!]

67 posted on 04/07/2012 6:29:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: Longbow1969

Considering this is the Religion Forum, what about mormonism that has been said is incorrect.
Unless you know about mormonism, and Romney how on earth do you expect to defend that sitnk’n liberal Romney.
Romney is a mormon, he is who he is because of his mormonsim not in spite of it, if you wish to defend him from “unfair” attacks you better learn what mormonism actually is.


68 posted on 04/07/2012 6:36:11 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39

With all due respect, he’s mopped the floor with all his opponents so far.

Look I dislike Romney. I believe he’s the reason Obama is in office right now.

I think he’s manipulative. I believe he right away in 2008, after ending that campaign, immediately sensed Sarah Palin was an existential threat to his plan to run again this year - and for that reason only - sent his operatives to undermine Palin, and so doing cost the GOP the election.

That in my mind was reprehensible, and it does seem to this poster to have been what happened. Others may disagree.

However there’s not much doubt at this point, Romney’s ruthlessly competitive. Machiavellian. I believe he can indeed beat Obama.

I don’t like him, but I’m starting to respect him just for being so efficiently ruthless.

Frankly, the GOP needs a bit of ruthless for a change.

I will once again say honestly I’m not on this board to praise Romney, except to the extent he opposes Obama.

Which he’s now doing. So I’m stuck with him.

He’s an SOB, but if he’s the GOP’s SOB I really have no other stand to make.

I’m going with Obama’s opponent. That simple.

And yes, he clearly can win.


69 posted on 04/07/2012 6:37:32 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Jim Robinson; greyfoxx39

Did I say that was a preferred outcome? Your logic is dumbfounding in thinking that Mitt is the One.

There is still a lot of time and if we can get to a brokered convention real conservatism might just reign in the idiots promoting brother Romney. Texas will be changing the rules regarding total delegates. That could be key.

Romney might still be the nominee, however we do not need to endorse him just yet or ever. Your obvious enthusiasm is pretty silly at this point. Jim Robinson was here last summer for the Freeper picnic. A very fine man. His perspective on Romney is correct and I too support him!


70 posted on 04/07/2012 6:37:37 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Signalman

The reason of course is the R vs the D after the name, the reality is they are the same.
mormonism is much more liberal than the PR machine in SLC wants the public to beleive.
Romney is a liberal because he is a mormon not in spite of it.


71 posted on 04/07/2012 6:38:58 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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Click!

72 posted on 04/07/2012 6:39:44 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Signalman

Romney is a temple mormon, before you defend it, find out what it really is.


73 posted on 04/07/2012 6:40:28 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Utah Binger

I’d really like someone other than Romney as our nominee.

I’d really like Obama to lose the next election, even more.


74 posted on 04/07/2012 6:42:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Before you defend Romney and his candidacy learn about mormonism.
Romney is a liberal because he is a mormon not in spite of it.


75 posted on 04/07/2012 6:43:50 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I’d really like someone other than Romney as our nominee.

If that is true, then stop the pandering.

76 posted on 04/07/2012 6:43:50 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What opposition to BHO?
Romney destroys conservatives yet says BHO is just a guy in over his head.
Seriously do you really think he will be as ruthless towards BHO as he has been towards conservatives?


77 posted on 04/07/2012 6:46:49 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Utah Binger

Believe what you will.

I oppose Obama. Period.

Whoever can defeat Obama, I’m for.


78 posted on 04/07/2012 6:47:23 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Believe what you will. I oppose Obama. Period. Whoever can defeat Obama, I’m for.

Big deal. We all do. Aren't you speshul?

79 posted on 04/07/2012 6:50:45 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

I suppose we shall see. I see a lot of waffling toward Obama so far.

There are only 211 more days until the election.


80 posted on 04/07/2012 6:53:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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