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I Miss Women Wearing Hats and Veils in Church. A brief reminiscence of days gone by
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | april 10th, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/11/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation

I Miss Women Wearing Hats and Veils in Church. A brief reminiscence of days gone by.

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

I know, I know, I am so hopelessly old fashioned. But I want to say, I miss women wearing hats. I have written before (HERE) of how I miss them wearing the veil in Church. But even before the veil, the hat was more commonly worn by women in 1940s and before (See photo  below left, of my parish taken in the early 1950s, click photo for a larger view). Veils became popular in the later 1950s and 1960s before head coverings for women (and men) all but disappeared in the late 1960s (along with just about everything elegant).

The Easter Bonnet, once a main tradition at Easter, now provokes stares of confusion when mentioned to younger people today. “Easter Bonnet?…What’s that?!” Too bad, gone with the (cultural) wind.

Frankly we have become a very informal culture and we almost never dress up any more. Jeans and a T-Shirt, even for Mass. When I was a kid in the early 1960s I would not set foot in the Church without trousers, a button down shirt, a necktie and (in the cooler months) a dress jacket). Women and girls always wore a dress and a veil or hat. Frankly too, we would not think of going to a restaurant in those years either, without dressing up a good bit.

Yeah, I know, I am hopelessly out of date and some of you feel judged. But I’m just going to say it again, I miss the fact that we almost never dress up any more, and that things like hats, jackets and ties for men, formal and pretty dresses for women, veils (or hats) in Church are gone.

In the African American Community where I have served for most of my priesthood, dressing up for Church and women wearing hats and veils, hung on a lot longer, but it too has largely subsided. I read an article in the Washington Post yesterday that largely read the funeral rites over hat wearing in the Black congregations. There’s still a few with the “ole time religion” but they are far fewer. Here are a some excerpts from the article:

For generations, church sanctuaries across the nation on Sunday mornings, especially in black churches and especially on Easter, transformed into a collage of hats: straw ones, felt ones, velvet ones, every shape, size and color, with bows, jewels and feathers, reaching for the heavens.

But anyone walking into today’s services expecting to see a nonstop parade of women making fashion statements on their heads will be sorely disappointed. Many daughters and granddaughters of the women who made bold and flashy hats synonymous with the black church have not carried on the tradition.

Anita Saunders, 42… grew up watching her mother’s generation flaunt their hats in church. “And I always loved it,” says the Indianapolis resident. “It was part of Sunday, the experience of the hats. We looked forward to seeing what hat Sister So-and-So was going to wear. My friends, we all grew up in the same church with mothers who wore hats, but we don’t. And so, yes, it seems it’s fading out.”

Elaine Saunders…is part of that generation of black women who launched hat-wearing into the stratosphere…..Their style was dignified, elegant, sometimes irreverent and even humorous, but it was always eye-catching. “You have a certain air when you put on a hat. If you put on the whole shebang and you’re satisfied, you walk different. You act different. And people treat you different,” says Saunders….

The whole shebang would be a hat that matches the suit that matches the shoes that match the bag….

Mother and daughter not only wore hats and gloves to church but also donned them for shopping trips downtown. “If you were dressed up, they thought you were somebody important, so you’d get waited on,” Saunders said.

“I guess as I got older, around my teens, I started flirting around with different hairstyles,” said Sylvia Magby, 58, “I started cutting my hair, and I just never found a hat that fit my head.” Her youngest sister, Anita…won’t go near a hat (except the emergency baseball cap for bad hair days). She was much younger when she first rebelled against them. “I was maybe 6, and I was very concerned that the hat would disturb my bangs, and I wanted nothing to do with it,” she recalls.

Many women say, “I have hats from my mother and other relatives, but I don’t wear them,” or “Hats don’t look good on me,” [But] as Saunders sees it, “there will be a set of women who will wear hats forever.”…there, in all its splendor,  that poof of fuchsia and iridescent feathers, … for all the world to see.

Read the Full Article Here: Church Ladies and their Hats, A Fading Tradition

Some will doubtless say, “Well look, it sounds like it was more about pride and getting seen, than worshiping God.” Others will doubtless remark that the Scriptures envision a woman covering her head before God as a way of covering her glory (i.e. her hair) and thus being humble before God. OK fine, but I’d just like to add that there is also something wonderful about the dignity of dressing really well to go to God’s house, something classy, something fitting. And again I’ll just say, I miss it, and always appreciate when I see it.

We men too have let things drop often marching into Church with sandals, jeans and a t-shirt. I regret too that we so seldom wear suits or hats anymore. Priests still wear the suit, but a fine cassock is hard to find and there is a lot of sloppy and poorly set forth liturgical vestments and altar cloths. Finer things are few and far between.

A small boast form your host, I have worn a fedora in the cooler months since my 20s. Not only do I think it looks good, but it is also does a great job keeping the cold away. I am amazed at what a difference a simple hat can make. Think about it men, a good hat can be classy and warm.

And ladies, I don’t DARE tell you what to do, but let me just say it again, I MISS the veils and hats. Yes, a real touch of class. Uh oh, now the comments are open.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; culture; current; feminism; hats; hatsandveils; msgrcharlespope; tradition; veils; women
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To: trailhkr1
The Eucharist(sic) minister

The Priest?

101 posted on 04/12/2012 9:44:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The Priest?

No, the people who help pass out communion.

102 posted on 04/12/2012 10:14:51 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Age of Reason
I remember the nun in school letting you use a lacy round thing to put on your head with a bobby pin, if you didn't have one for the usual First Friday mass at school....the nun would also have extra ties for the boys....

but what I love is the constant bashing of what women do or don't do....

men used to fill the ranks of ushers,Knights of Columbus, the choir, etc...

men used to wear suits and ties to church...

men used to actually go to church...

but no, the important thing is women not wearing a hat....*sigh*

103 posted on 04/12/2012 10:24:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Salvation

My wife has continued to wear her veil to mass for years. We moved 2 years ago, sold the house and rented to be closer to my office. Now we attend a very wealthy Parish and she feels somewhat “uncomfortable” wearing the veil. Wealthy people make us both rather uncomfortable and I’m surprised at how unfriendly they are.


104 posted on 04/12/2012 10:55:15 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: trailhkr1
That would be an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion not a Eucharistic Minister.

Redemptionis Sacramentum

1. The Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion

[154.] As has already been recalled, “the only minister who can confect the Sacrament of the Eucharist in persona Christi is a validly ordained Priest”.[254] Hence the name “minister of the Eucharist” belongs properly to the Priest alone. Moreover, also by reason of their sacred Ordination, the ordinary ministers of Holy Communion are the Bishop, the Priest and the Deacon,[255] to whom it belongs therefore to administer Holy Communion to the lay members of Christ’s faithful during the celebration of Mass. In this way their ministerial office in the Church is fully and accurately brought to light, and the sign value of the Sacrament is made complete.

105 posted on 04/12/2012 10:59:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: cherry

Although I detest man bashing, is a lot of it the fault of women?

I wish, too, that there were more men lectors, greeters, extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion.

Woemn are really not supposed to be in the altar area.

I also do not like girls serving Mass.

I think a lot of liberal stuff slid through when Vatican II went through.

Watch as Pope Benedict cleans things up. Already Communion on the tongue is a norm in a couple of dioceses. Some churches have put the Communion rail back in too.

God bless.


106 posted on 04/12/2012 11:01:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trailhkr1; A.A. Cunningham

There is only one Eucharistic minister at each Mass (the officiating priest) unless a church has a lot of priests or deacons on staff.

I think you are talking about lay people, and they are called “Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion.” The priest is the “ordinary” distributor of Holy Communion.

Additionally, women are not supposed to be in the altar area......watch as Pope Benedict cleans house!


107 posted on 04/12/2012 11:05:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ladyjane

Good for you!


108 posted on 04/12/2012 11:09:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jocon307

If you want to see why we should not receive Communion in the hand, have someone put an unconsecrated host in your black-gloved hands.

When you pick it up, you will see all the particles left on your black-gloved hand.

Since it wouldn’t be too cool to be licking the particles of a CONSECRATED HOST, the actually body and blood of Christ, off ones hands, you will change to receiving Communion on your tongue.

Try it!


109 posted on 04/12/2012 11:12:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I hate dressing in a suit and tie, but I see the author’s point.

I was looking through an elderly CT relative’s scrapbook, and the photos of the procession in a traditional 1940s church were breathtaking.

It’s inarguable that much has been lost.


110 posted on 04/12/2012 11:14:12 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Salvation
Additionally, women are not supposed to be in the altar area......watch as Pope Benedict cleans house!

The woman "lay ministers" in my church walk right across the altar towards their various locations in the church after receiving their communion. They do it all the time.

Keep on believing what you want. If anything the Catholic church will become more welcoming to woman. This is 2012 after all.

111 posted on 04/12/2012 11:14:27 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Good to know that this is being requiried.


112 posted on 04/12/2012 11:15:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: murron
I wish the Church would re-implement a dress code, although I’m sure it would be ignored.

Indeed. If only we could keep more people out of church. That would be a success.

113 posted on 04/12/2012 11:17:45 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: arielguard

I heard of a church that offered wraparound skirts as well as shawlls to scantily dressed women.

I’d love to give one to a 40+ woman who wear skirt much too short for her.


114 posted on 04/12/2012 11:18:35 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Already Communion on the tongue is a norm in a couple of dioceses. Some churches have put the Communion rail back in too.

Communal HPV-2 STD virus anyone?? The Priest is going to hit the saliva of someone sooner or later and pass it along.With 30%+ of people now having STD's especially among the younger set.

Same thing as people sipping from the communal wine glass and just wiping it off with a knapkin. Sickening.

Do you realize how easy it is to pass the STD HPV-2? Hint you can get it from just a slight kiss with no saliva.

I'm waiting for the class action laws suits when a group of people catch something through your old fashioned ways.

115 posted on 04/12/2012 11:21:15 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Tax-chick

Hey, the hats were really tiny...I didn’t explain that. Sorry.

I think you are probably a much better parent than I ever was or ever will be.

Blessings


116 posted on 04/12/2012 11:23:07 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trailhkr1

That woman should have gotten a wraparound skirt, huh? Unbelievable.


117 posted on 04/12/2012 11:27:05 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trailhkr1

HPV-2 should read HSV-2


118 posted on 04/12/2012 11:30:54 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Salvation

I have big straw hats! They would fall off when I tried to pick up the baby, or bash another choir member right in the glasses ...

I like to wear my headscarf when I go to Mass without all the children, especially in the winter when it’s drafty in the Redneck Evangelical Catholic Party Barn.


119 posted on 04/12/2012 11:40:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: cherry; All

No, no one is saying that the really important thing is whether or not women wear hats and veils. This thread is a reaction to a rather nostalgic and admittedly unserious article Msr Pope wrote, in which he seems to pine for some of the cherished memories of his youth. It seems to hit a nerve with some people because the hat is a symbol of a bygone era in which certain standards, traditions, and duties were respected. There are many Catholics, many Protestants, and many other Freepers who are decidedly unhappy about the way tradition was swept away by liberalism during the sixties and seventies, and as part of an effort to prevent this process from going forward, or at least to slow it, we try to preserve tradition.

OK, everybody, you’ve had your effect on me. Tomorrow morning I’m wearing a pretty piece of lace veiling as a mantilla. It’s been sitting in my drawer since my mother gave it to me for some unknown purpose 30 years ago, and I might as well use it to show my solidarity with church tradition. So there. :-)


120 posted on 04/12/2012 12:11:54 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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