God is the greatest liberal claims No 3 in Catholic Churc

Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 10 July 2012 | Cathcon

[gorush]

Don’t tie me down...I am happy to define my position without any outside influence.

[UCANSEE2]

My logic has convinced me that a proof of the existence of a God is lacking...as is a proof to the contrary.

And the lack of both has me convinced that only GOD could prevent both things from occurring, by being beyond discovery. At least it's a good theory. Opinions vary.

[reasonisfaith]

If the Resurrection didn’t happen, the Bible is nothing but a fairy tale.

[gorush]

"And the lack of both has me convinced that only GOD could prevent both things from occurring..."

That is a leap of faith that I am not willing to make.

[UCANSEE2]

I think that human nature is the same now as it was 10,000 years ago

Yeah, they even had wireless phones back then.

[gorush]

Human nature and technology are in no way related.

[RnMomof7]

Yep

[UCANSEE2]

If they lied as much then as now, then they also told the truth as much then as now.

"That's just what I said."

[reasonisfaith]

I responded to his post #11 in which gorush explains that logic makes him agnostic.

The point is that logic when combined with evidence points toward theism—specifically the Gospel of Christ.

[Springfield Reformer]

LOL!

[gorush]

"The point is that logic when combined with evidence points toward theism"

Flawed as I am you won't be surprised to hear that I missed that.

[UCANSEE2]

Do you have an independent test of how smart they are,

Well... to tell the difference between a high functioning retard and a low level genius takes a blood test.

BTW, I studied Latin and agnostic is not translated as ignoramus.

Do you think it 'Christian' to make a personal attack ?

[Springfield Reformer]

I have obviously failed to be clear. I am sorry. Perhaps another time.

[UCANSEE2]

We agnostics don’t mind being wrong but we just want to know why so that we can ammend our positions.

How can you be 'wrong' if you haven't picked an answer ?

[gorush]

Perhaps.

[reasonisfaith]

No. And if you felt attacked, I apologize.

But if you read my post strictly from a logical approach, you can see that it reads as a direct question without any personal attack.

I was quoting a Cambridge scholar regarding agnostic being translated in Latin as “ignoramus.” I would think it’s close.

[UCANSEE2]

Congratulations on a religious thread that approaches 100 responses. I am happy to help.

Well... when you start off with the question of whether GOD is a liberal, and then back up to proving GOD even exists, it can take some time.

Rather like asking the question of whether Obama is a legal candidate for President, then backing up to prove he even exists. That one is taking a long , long time.

[reasonisfaith]

Evidence = empty tomb.

[gorush]

"How can you be 'wrong' if you haven't picked an answer ?"

There are far more opportunities to be wrong than there are to be right...hence my consternation and search.

[UCANSEE2]

.I am happy to define my position without any outside influence.

You are right. I overreached on some of the comments.