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God is the greatest liberal claims No 3 in Catholic Churc
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 10 July 2012 | Cathcon

Posted on 07/09/2012 4:28:17 PM PDT by Gillibrand

Relaxed and at ease, Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller returns a week after his appointment as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to the Diocese of Regensburg. A series of interviews for journalists are on the agenda for Friday: liberation theology, the SSPX and the situation of divorced and remarried. Minefields for an ecclesiastic, who has moved to third place in the Vatican's ecclesiastical pecking order.

Archbishop Mueller, first of all, congratulations on the new job. Since when did you know about your appointment?

I definitely knew it on 16 May, when the Holy Father has summoned me to his presence.

Did your commitment to the liberation theology endangers your appointment?

I do not know. If you know the Catholic faith, we know that to her essentially belong the social obligation, the responsibility for the world, the love of the poor. Liberation theology is a big word - but every Christian theology has something to do with the freedom of man. Also in South America in this context, it is about theological questions: Given the misery and indignity that many people around us can not imagine, given this glaring injustice, we can not simply go away with a pious raising of eyebrows about it. Faith and doing good go together. These are the two sides of a coin.

Are you then in agreement with the Pope?

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: cdf; doctrine; dogma; rome
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To: UCANSEE2; reasonisfaith

Don’t tie me down...I am happy to define my position without any outside influence.


101 posted on 07/09/2012 8:04:42 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
My logic has convinced me that a proof of the existence of a God is lacking...as is a proof to the contrary.

And the lack of both has me convinced that only GOD could prevent both things from occurring, by being beyond discovery. At least it's a good theory. Opinions vary.

102 posted on 07/09/2012 8:06:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

If the Resurrection didn’t happen, the Bible is nothing but a fairy tale.


103 posted on 07/09/2012 8:07:24 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: UCANSEE2
"And the lack of both has me convinced that only GOD could prevent both things from occurring..."

That is a leap of faith that I am not willing to make.

104 posted on 07/09/2012 8:08:17 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
I think that human nature is the same now as it was 10,000 years ago

Yeah, they even had wireless phones back then.


105 posted on 07/09/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Human nature and technology are in no way related.


106 posted on 07/09/2012 8:14:40 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: NVDave

Yep


107 posted on 07/09/2012 8:16:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: reasonisfaith; gorush
If they lied as much then as now, then they also told the truth as much then as now.

"That's just what I said."


108 posted on 07/09/2012 8:17:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2; gorush

I responded to his post #11 in which gorush explains that logic makes him agnostic.

The point is that logic when combined with evidence points toward theism—specifically the Gospel of Christ.


109 posted on 07/09/2012 8:17:57 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL!


110 posted on 07/09/2012 8:21:08 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: reasonisfaith
"The point is that logic when combined with evidence points toward theism"

Flawed as I am you won't be surprised to hear that I missed that.

111 posted on 07/09/2012 8:22:18 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: reasonisfaith
Do you have an independent test of how smart they are,

Well... to tell the difference between a high functioning retard and a low level genius takes a blood test.

BTW, I studied Latin and agnostic is not translated as ignoramus.

Do you think it 'Christian' to make a personal attack ?

112 posted on 07/09/2012 8:23:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: gorush

I have obviously failed to be clear. I am sorry. Perhaps another time.


113 posted on 07/09/2012 8:29:03 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: gorush
We agnostics don’t mind being wrong but we just want to know why so that we can ammend our positions.

How can you be 'wrong' if you haven't picked an answer ?

114 posted on 07/09/2012 8:29:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Perhaps.


115 posted on 07/09/2012 8:30:41 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: UCANSEE2

No. And if you felt attacked, I apologize.

But if you read my post strictly from a logical approach, you can see that it reads as a direct question without any personal attack.

I was quoting a Cambridge scholar regarding agnostic being translated in Latin as “ignoramus.” I would think it’s close.


116 posted on 07/09/2012 8:32:44 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: gorush; Gillibrand
Congratulations on a religious thread that approaches 100 responses. I am happy to help.

Well... when you start off with the question of whether GOD is a liberal, and then back up to proving GOD even exists, it can take some time.

Rather like asking the question of whether Obama is a legal candidate for President, then backing up to prove he even exists. That one is taking a long , long time.

117 posted on 07/09/2012 8:34:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: gorush

Evidence = empty tomb.


118 posted on 07/09/2012 8:34:07 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: UCANSEE2
"How can you be 'wrong' if you haven't picked an answer ?"

There are far more opportunities to be wrong than there are to be right...hence my consternation and search.

119 posted on 07/09/2012 8:35:23 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
.I am happy to define my position without any outside influence.

You are right. I overreached on some of the comments.

120 posted on 07/09/2012 8:36:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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