Posted on 07/12/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by fabian
There is a power and technique that the church has missed. The quiet stillness where real salvation is gifted to us effortlessly is real prayer. Please find it so we can all fight for our nation and right much more effectively!
Yeah, I gotcha. He's done. He's been done for thousands of years. It's just a matter of how many he's going to drag down with him.
1 John 3:7-15
King James Version (KJV)
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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Its very clear that Born Again Christians do no sin anymore. There aren’t many truly Born Again Christians. That is why you don’t know anybody.
The Truth of the matter is that most people who call themselves Christians really are not. Of course, that is an unacceptable truth to most.
If you continue to sin, you are not a Born Again Christian.
“If you continue to sin, you are not a Born Again Christian.”
Pride is a sin.
Chief among those refusing to be acknowledged.
Was Paul “Born Again”?
Why did he profess to live in fear and trembling regarding his salvation?
Romans Chapter 8 in no way says that we no longer sin. It states that we are now made clean in the eyes of God. The flesh is always sinful...but the Grace of God blots that out from his sight due to the sacrifice of Jesus. As believers we desire to be sinless, but we are incapable of lacking sin due to the fact that we are still in the flesh.
We are not sinless...that is blaspheme. What we are is forgiven. You make a very dangerous read of Scripture and I hope you repent for I’m afraid you do not fully grasp the plan of Salvation if you think you are without sin.
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This text is often misused to instill fear into people, warning them that it means that they can lose salvation. What does it mean to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? It does not seem likely that Paul could have meant literally that they were to live in a continuous condition of nervousness and anxiety. After all, the very same Spirit inspired Paul to write that “God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline” (2 Timothy 1:7). The Greek word translated ‘fear’ in this context can equally mean ‘reverence’ or ‘respect.’ When Paul writes to the Corinthians and reports that Titus had been encouraged and refreshed by their reception of him, he goes on to say that the Corinthian Christians received him with ‘fear and trembling’ (2 Corinthians 7:15). It makes little sense that a Christian minister would be encouraged and refreshed by a display of nervous anxiety! Rather Titus was delighted by their obedience to the God they revered.
Prideful is probably better defined as someone who thinks they don't sin.
The older I get the more disgusted I am with my sin and the more I cling to the Cross. That is the result of being born again.
Yes. Are you there yet?
yes
No, I just know the power that God has blessed me with. Not pride at all to proclaim that as it does not come from me! And your disgust is what keeps you from really overcoming all of your sins.
I guess you missed the post here that show in the bible all of the places where we do gain power to not sin after salvation. The true meaning of your quote is all HAVE sinned...obviously. You are twisting the meaning to fit your own weakness.
We all sin-Christians included. It's just that God the Father uses us in spite of our nature. And He can look on us because of the precious work of Christ.
Peter warned Christians not to be considered a "a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler" (I Pet 4:15). And Paul tells us not to think more highly of ourselves as we should.
I see that YOU really need to be careful...
Rom 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
Rom 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
Rom 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Rom 6:13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
Rom 6:16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Rom 6:18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
We are all fallen, and incapable of “sinning no more”.
This is why we require repeated repentance and forgiveness, along with continual prayer.
To provide the strength and the grace to do better.
Knowing we will always fall short.
Know anybody who hasn’t sinned in the last year?
ya...me either...
John ch 5
24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
I believe in God and his son, so i have to agree.
What John means is obviously ALL have sinned and are in need of being saved. Sin is in us, but once the born agian experience happens, that is it! You guys use translation of certain scripture to justify sinning and shame on you!
Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit? Of course not!
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
1. causing to feel shame or chagrin or vexation
2. causing awareness of your shortcomings
But the believers can not get by with this because their Spirit shames them, makes them aware, they can not feel good about it.
What would be the reason for verse 13 if believers did not sin?
A number of years ago, I spoke at a missions conference for religious leaders. God- who obviously thought it was funny- put me at the dinner table with one of the most uptight and angry men I’ve ever met.
Luke 18
10
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12
i fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
No.
It’s a sign of growth as a Christian.
Same experience that Paul had...
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