[Joe 6-pack]

"We need to be prepared to defend pro-life positions using arguments that convince not only ourselves but others."

IMHO, there are few out there that do this as well as Santorum. The screeching moonbats on the far left shrieked at everything he said, but those in the squishy center tended to pay attention to him and think about what he said.

Take for example, how Rick handled nearly the exact same question during the primaries.

Akin could have learned a lot from him...

[nickcarraway]

Is that where he go his Medical degree?

[hecht]

He obviously had no degree in biology or history

[darrellmaurina]

Ping to the religion board for a post I wrote on the Christian Observer message boards for the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and United Reformed Churches in North America, as well as the Puritan Board and the Warfield List (which have a large PCA readership).

This one is going to hurt Calvinists and hurt us badly. The old stuff about Southern Presbyterians hating women, with shades of allusions to Southern neo-Confederate stuff, is already getting spread all over the internet. (Of course, Akin is a northerner and Covenant Theological Seminary was from a northern denomination that merged with the PCA, but it's too much to ask that facts not confuse people, I guess.)

[chuckee]

Akin is an engineer. Remind me not to stand under a bridge he engineered.

[klb99]

Demanding Akin resign: this is what I HATE about the gutless GOP and as soon as there is a viable alternative party that can win elections - I’m outa there. Dems can commit actual crimes and are lauded. Bill Clinton actually raped women and he is the keynote speaker of the upcoming convention. Akin said something unpopular using awkward phrasing - all he meant was even in rape the baby is innocent and not deserving of being killed - and the long knives of HIS OWN party are out for him in minutes. Pansy-a$$es all of them.

[Vendome]

[mlizzy]

Akin really blew it, and we need to be careful to avoid similar mistakes.

If folks in general cared about the unborn and women who got raped, they would have found a way to understand Akin (I had no difficulty at all), not criticize him. He's in the corner of pro-life. Is it because he opened up a topic that Romney had buried that bothers people? Or are many Republicans actually not pro-life?

[stpio]

“We need to be prepared to defend pro-life positions using arguments that convince not only ourselves but others.

It’s one thing to say something dumb from the pulpit, but it’s more difficult when tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people hear it. Akin really blew it, and we need to be careful to avoid similar mistakes.”

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People get upset at a few spoken words and ignore legislation for the increase of abortion here and overseas and legalizing sodomy by the two men running for the highest office in the land.

And God is going bless us? Sister Lucia of Fatima
called it “diabolical disorientation” and it’s happening
again...daily now.

[Just mythoughts]

I would like to know that IF Akin loses to Claire, will it be his fault, this state’s fault or God’s fault? By the way when God sends a messenger the message always happens exactly the way God intends?

[xzins]

Romney thinks Boy Scout leaders should be gay and Akin thinks there are different types of rape and that receptive female partners are more likely to get pregnant than rape victims.

I vote for Romney getting the boot, and Akins moving up to his slot on the national ticket.

[Biggirl]

The question I do have with what Rep. Akin said is that, could this have cost not only him, but also the GOP the US Senate?

[wagglebee]

It wouldn't at all surprise me if Todd Akin had been told hundreds of times that rape rarely results in pregnancy,

There are a number of factors.

A woman is only fertile for about two days a month and sperm can live for up to three days. So, there are maybe five days a month that a woman can get pregnant.

However, this does not factor in the reality that many women are on birth control and many rapists use condoms, this alone greatly reduces the number of pregnancies. Then there is the fact that the trauma of the rape can often be stressful enough to prevent fertilization. Add to this the fact that many rape victims are menopausal women.

Everything I've read indicates that there are between o5 and 95 thousand rapes per year in the United States and the general consensus is that no more than 5% of rape victims become pregnant. So, the actual number is fairly low.

Nevertheless, the problem with Akin is that he stated that there is some sort of biological defense that keeps rape victims from becoming pregnant and this is flat out false. Add to that his use of the term "legitimate" was stupid.

[MEGoody]

Of course, everyone should watch what they say. But we all say things the wrong way from time to time, and sometimes cause people to get mad because we didn't properly communicate what we meant to say.

Does that mean we get burned at the stake for it like some Pubbies are trying to do to Akin? No, it shouldn't mean that at all. We should be forgiven, especially if we've apologized like he has.