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Are Conservatives Abandoning Romney? [Say What?!? 7-10% of Tea Party Evangelicals support Obama??]
The Right Sphere ^ | September 16, 2012 | Tom Dougherty

Posted on 09/17/2012 7:31:00 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

There have been 16 public polls conducted in swing states within the last week and there is an alarming statistic, consistent in all the polls regardless of the pollster party bias, that should have the Romney camp more than a little worried and possibly perplexed.

The numbers are clear that self-described conservatives are not supporting Governor Romney in sufficient numbers to win the election. Additionally there is anecdotal evidence that Evangelicals and Tea Party supporters are not embracing the Romney-Ryan ticket at levels that would be expected.

Looking at the crosstabs of the polls conducted in Colorado, Florida, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia within the last ten days, and averaging the support for Obama and Romney by ideology, the chart below speaks thousands of words.

Obama has a 7% greater support level among liberals than Romney has among conservatives, and a 6.8% favorable delta among likely voters who are “bolting from the base”. Without any demographic adjustment, using the raw data from the polls in those five states, Obama has an average lead of 2.5%.

If conservatives were supporting Governor Romney at the same level liberals are supporting President Obama, without any change to the level of support from self-described moderates, Romney could have a 4% plus lead in five states that have a total of 73 electoral votes

With my current electoral map showing Obama with 237 votes and Romney with 222, 73 votes is the ballgame, and by a comfortable margin.

In addition to the ideology breakdowns, the crosstabs show Tea Party supporters favor Romney over Obama, 85.0% to 10.6%, and Evangelical Christians favor Romney over Obama, 63.0% to 28.2%. Now I can immediately write-off a large part of the evangelical numbers because three of the polls conducted by Marist Polling state that 33% of evangelicals support Obama and that skews the numbers badly.

What I can’t write off is there are 7% to 10% of the electorate who describe themselves as either Tea Partiers or Evangelical Christians that are supporting Barack Obama in these five critical states. This is the empirical part of questioning the lack of support from ultra-conservatives within the Republican Party.

Anecdotally speaking there is also evidence that a faction of the party, large enough to insure a Romney-Ryan victory, is not fully behind the GOP ticket. In the last week I have received a minimum of a dozen emails from Tea Party organizations and other ultra-conservative groups demanding the ouster of Barack Obama in November but failing to even mention the names, Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

A few of these organizations may have charters as 527’s or another quasi-political group that prevents them from expressing specific support for a given candidate but I know the vast majority are not. So the question that begs to be asked of these groups is if you want Obama gone, why are you not advocating for a Romney-Ryan victory in November?

We are looking at a presidential race today that literally is a statistical tie, and yes I know that phrase is overworked but it is the truth, with President Obama having the upper hand. Clearly there is somewhere between 7% and 15% of conservatives who, while seemingly committed to seeing Obama as a one-term president, are not supporting the only option to victory in November that achieves their stated goal.

So my answer to the question asked is yes, conservatives are abandoning Romney, and that is an answer many Republicans must find unsettling.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; christianvote; conservatives; elections; evangelicals; obama; romney
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To: Religion Moderator

I apologize as I did not realize this thread was posted in the religion forum.

With that said, I would very much like to know why my post was removed. (I have sent you a private message if you do not wish to answer that question here.) I fail to see how stating that I am the mother of five and the grandmother of four falls into the “potty mouth” category unless it is the reference to procreation one must have accomplished at one time to have such children?

I’m done. I won’t make the mistake of posting such facts in the religion forum again. Please pardon my indiscretion of assailing such tender sensibilities.


121 posted on 09/17/2012 10:11:04 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: ansel12
They disappear like the mist in the morning sun when you try to ping them down on that.

Best they can come up with is that not voting for their liberal ensures the other liberal gets elected.

No consideration at all for my sensitive feelings that don't want any liberal elected. Feelings that will be crushed, yet again, this election.

/johnny

122 posted on 09/17/2012 10:19:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Unam Sanctam
The GOP house that can't ride herd on the liberal currently in the White House certainly isn't going to ride herd on one of their own.

The 'hold the feet to the fire' meme is not selling. To anyone.

/johnny

124 posted on 09/17/2012 10:27:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: boycott
I talk to blacks all the time who believe in Jesus and are completely unaware of what Obama stands for concerning abortion and homosexual "marriage". Somehow they have not been informed and think that Obama is a Christian and it is fine to vote for him as a Christian. I think that it is possible that if Christian blacks were educated as to what Obama/the democrats actually push for concerning blatant evil many would not vote him. Once again, the truth about Obama has not at all gotten out to many, many black people.

Republicans are so busy only worrying about the economy that they have overlooked how important moral positions are to many black and Hispanic people who have remained in the dark concerning how immoral the democrat party is. We should blitz their media outlets with the truth in such a way that they will understand that they won't be able to vote for Obama/democrats without voting against God.

125 posted on 09/17/2012 10:29:38 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No, they don’t disappear, it’s that time wasting childish posts, don’t require responses, especially when they are repeated 100s of times a day no matter what the Romney critic posts.


126 posted on 09/17/2012 10:31:02 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Unam Sanctam
Romney will at least part of the time be influenced in a conservative direction


127 posted on 09/17/2012 10:32:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bellflower
I talk to blacks all the time who believe in Jesus and are completely unaware of what Obama stands for concerning abortion

The people on this thread do not know Mitt Romney's position on abortion.

128 posted on 09/17/2012 10:33:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: JRandomFreeper

I misread your post, sorry.


129 posted on 09/17/2012 10:35:24 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Don't know or care about his 'position'.

I do know what he did as governor, though. That record is pretty clear.

I never go by what a politician says. I go by what they do.

/johnny

130 posted on 09/17/2012 10:35:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Freepers don’t know what his current position is because he changed it about 3 weeks ago, and renounced the GOP pro-life party platform.

So far it is a dead subject here.


131 posted on 09/17/2012 10:39:35 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
All good. I understand what you meant.

/johnny

132 posted on 09/17/2012 10:39:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
His past actions were a fairly good clue as to his future actions.

As I said, I don't care about what a politician says. I care about what they do.

Enabling the support of baby killers? Meh... I'm not so good with that.

Doesn't get my vote.

/johnny

133 posted on 09/17/2012 10:48:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bellflower

I believe you are right about getting the word out more. They should be made fully aware that they are compromising their beliefs if they vote for Obama.


134 posted on 09/17/2012 10:51:12 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I'm not trying to stop people from voting for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, big government liberal.

I expect that people will vote their principles and values.

Isn't that what we want?

/johnny

136 posted on 09/17/2012 11:06:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim from C-Town
let's keep the Lord out of it.

Hard to do, in the Religion Forum. With those rules. Ahem...

/johnny

137 posted on 09/17/2012 11:08:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Don't be so cocksure that you know the will of God.

I'm fairly sure that voting for someone that did actually support the state financing of killing babies isn't what I should do.

Killing babies is wrong. Supporting those that kill babies is wrong. Voting for those that support killing babies is wrong.

For me, anyway. Your mileage may vary.

Vote your principles and values.

/johnny

138 posted on 09/17/2012 11:13:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I stand by what I said. Romney will at least on occasion act conservatively. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face.


139 posted on 09/17/2012 11:28:45 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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