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Daughter of LDS Bishop Warns Against Mormonism and Romney Presidency ['Of two evils...neither']
Christian News Network ^ | Oct. 13, 2012 | Heather Clark

Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian

The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.

Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.

“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.

Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.

“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”

Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.

“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.

“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”

Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.

“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”

Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.

“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”

“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”

She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.

“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.

“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.

Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”

“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”

Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.

“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.

When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.

“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”

“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.

Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.

“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”


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KEYWORDS: 2012issues; bishop; christianvote; inman; lds; ldschurch; mittromney; mormon; mormonism; romneyryan2012
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To: Colofornian
You're really BadRay, re-incarnated from Pennsylvania, ain'cha' ?

Everything you've said here was foisted on us, except it was Santorum.

You ARE BadRay ... AIN'cha' ?!

61 posted on 10/17/2012 5:27:01 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Venturer; PapaBear3625; All
Romney may believe someday he will own a planet. Obama already believes he owns this one. Romney may believe that in him is a seed of God, Obama believes he is god. [Venturer]

Well, at any moment, I xpect PapaBear -- who just posted right before you (post #48) to repeat your way: "Really, I don't care about Romney's religious beliefs" -- only this time expressing: "Really, I don't care about Obama's religious beliefs."

NOT!!!/sarc

I've actually seen dozens of FREEPER comments over the past five years indicating they could care less about Romney's religious beliefs...funny thing is...I can only recall ONE single FR post saying the same thing about Obama.

Overall collective FREEPER message? 'Tis 'A-OK' to highlight all-things-Muslim 'bout Obama; but hypocritically, a double-standard then is communicated re: Mitt Romney's "I'm-a-god" beliefs.

Anyway, you and PapaBear could counter-balance each other, you lamenting Obama as a divine political Messiah, and PapaBear then countering that, "Hey, what do Obama's 'religious beliefs' matter, anyway?"

62 posted on 10/17/2012 5:27:43 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

I will take the Mormon over the Muslim, hands down.


63 posted on 10/17/2012 5:27:57 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Colofornian
As Spurgeon said, "Of two evils, choose neither."

Contrary to popular belief, doing nothing is doing something.

64 posted on 10/17/2012 5:29:42 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: muir_redwoods
So she’s got no axe to grind, right?

(You tell us since apparently you have some Magic-8 ball or urim & thummim that allows you to go and inwardly judge the motives of complete strangers...Perhaps you should market such a product...It'd be a great seller on the shelves!)

65 posted on 10/17/2012 5:30:14 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

There are a lot of candidates out there who I’d like to see win who have no chance. Goode is not going to come close to winning.

I know its a problem — we get forced into choosing one of two imperfect choices. Romney is a flip-flopper and I worry that he is going to pull a George Bush and goven as a RINO on domestic issues, which will infuriate me. So one option is to start voting third party, which in the long run may result in more conservative candidates by pressuring the GOP.

In this election, we have to get the Communist out of office even if it means Romney, with all his baggage, being elected. 4 more years of Obama means Obamacare is the law of the land for the rest of my life. It means massive debt and a huge tax increase on the productive class. It means we are a lot closer to the European model that is destroying the countries that have it. Romney may not be a strict Constitutionalist but he will move us away from these dangers.


66 posted on 10/17/2012 5:30:41 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: All

As one born in the mormon church, I’ve been watching the anti-mormon posts, and whether people like it or not, I haven’t caught any lies yet. If you were raised in that cult, you would know the truth is stranger than any fiction.

And it’s pretty weak to shout “bigot” when you can’t refute facts. That’s a ball-less Al Sharpton ploy.

That being said, what choice is there but Romney? None. So vote for him. But I sure wouldn’t relax because there’s a caucasian president with an “R” after his name.

Myself, I’m getting ready for the worst, regardless of which worst we get.


67 posted on 10/17/2012 5:32:57 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Colofornian

Go back under the rock from which you slithered and stay there.


68 posted on 10/17/2012 5:35:52 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Colofornian

There is much not to like about Mitt Romney.

But, has he promised to throw the castle gates open to the encircling barbarian hordes, like The Won did?

No.

Romney’s got my vote.

I spent eight years in Salt Lake City as a kid. As a “Gentile”.

Hated it.

I’ll still vote for the Mormon over the Marxist.

Haven’t you got anything better to do with your time than yank on Romney’s religion?


69 posted on 10/17/2012 5:36:51 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hattie

“Expect lots of this for the next three weeks. Obama has nothing else.”

Agreed. they have no more arrows in their quiver-Bain, tax returns, out-of-touch rich guy-haven’t worked. I wouldn’t be surprised to start seeing Mormonism-as-crazy-cult stories to try and alienate conservative Christians, of which I am one.

The good news is I don’t think it will work.


70 posted on 10/17/2012 5:39:15 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; All
The problem with this philosophy is that voting "third party" is only going to give you the option of yet another "evil". There is no one righteous, no not one.

Let's fast-forward to the year 2040. Let's say the Democrats are running the Anti-Christ for POTUS. Let's say the GoP counters with a reincarnated version of Hitler.

And your great grand-children? What will they do? Why, they'll quote Great Grandma's "wisdom" -- "There is no one righteous, no not one" -- and vote for the reincarnated Hitler...all because they were told by Great Grandma that since the "Righteous Candidate rate was 0%," why bother with given basic standards for candidates?

***************

Or take this scenario: The year is 2020. Obama lost 2012; Romney was POTUS for 8 years. Obama saw a few of the Democratic errors of his ways, and switched a few minor policies. And he switched parties. Now he's a GoP...and again, the conservatives can't unite around a single candidate, and they split their vote...and the "it's time for a minority GoP PoTUS" caucus wins the day.

Obama, the new GoP guy, runs vs. a more liberal Dem.

And, all of the "anybody but the liberal Dem" FREEPERs -- including Conservativegreatgrandma -- rally around the GoP Obama guy in 2020.

Why? "There is no one righteous, no not one." And at least Obama in that case would be "the lesser of two evils," right?

Ah, the sheer irony of it all. And doncha just love the way you're "training" up your children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren to assess leader-of-the-free world candidates?

71 posted on 10/17/2012 5:40:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: markomalley
The only alternative.

No; meningitis, heart failure, West Nile fever, and Al quida all still exist.

72 posted on 10/17/2012 5:41:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shalom aleichem
Billy Graham endorsed Mitt for crying out loud!

He DID?

Got any PROOF??

73 posted on 10/17/2012 5:42:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlwaysThinking
Which of the two of them are more aligned with my world view? Romney, without question.

Which of the two of them are more aligned with my SPIRITUAL view? Neither, without question.

75 posted on 10/17/2012 5:43:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

Ya, take the action that will allow Obama to destroy America, while you pretend you did it because Romney isn’t conservative enough.

Quit hiding behind your anti-Mormon bigotry, while you contribute to the destruction of America.


76 posted on 10/17/2012 5:44:09 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Colofornian
The point is that Romney believes he is NOW a "god in embryo"...

I get that. It is part of the absurdity that exemplifies Mormon theology. But Obama, the ultimate exemplar of the spirit of this age believes he is already God, a god, or part of god.

At least in the Mormon hierarchy (as several LDS friends have explained to me), Mitt would, if his belief were true, never be greater than God the Father. However, Obama appears to believe he is already capable of supplanting and surpassing any god.

Ms. Erickson is free to vote for the candidate of her choice. So am I. I would rather vote for someone whose theology is confused than someone who holds a visceral dislike for all things American and who, untethered by electoral accountability in a second term, will continue to pro-actively seek the destruction of the Republic from the office of the most powerful political position in the world.

Both men's leadership will require the balancing presence of a Congress with a backbone and that is where the real issue of the future is to be decided.

77 posted on 10/17/2012 5:44:57 AM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Colofornian

Interesting how Colofornian crawls out from under her rock after a several month hiatus and goes on the attack against Romney again as Obama is going down in flames in the debates.

Your boy Obama isn’t doing so well is he Colofornian? Time to break out he anti-Mormon guns again to help your candidate.


78 posted on 10/17/2012 5:47:08 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Dumb or Dumber? Biden or Obama?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; All
I once got caught up in this Constitution Party nonsense but my eyes got opened. They are no more righteous than the Republican and probably worse because these cowards know full well they have no chance of ever being elected to anything and they don't want to be elected.

In at least 14 blue states -- + D.C. -- Virgil Goode's chance of gaining the electoral votes of those states is exactly the same as Romney.

If these others are so pure, why don't they stay in the Republican party and fight and strengthen the Republican party?...Let's deal in reality, folks.

Let's deal with "reality"...

Not so many elections ago...the GoP had 35-36% of the registered voter pie.

Now? Now, it's down to 29%

You see, when your "big tent" gets so big that it doesn't really stand for anything anymore, then, yes, you're going to chase away plenty.

Now, obviously, the "leakage" has gone in many directions. Some liberal kids of conservative parents have bailed. Some have become libertarian independents. Some don't like GoP environmental policies.

But plenty have left because of the pro-abortion acceptance within the GoP.

Because if you can't stand for the least of these...then every other "right" is worthless in embracing.

79 posted on 10/17/2012 5:48:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Elsie

You expect a politician to be aligned with your SPIRITUAL views???

“Simpleton” ddoes not begin to define your utter witlessness.


80 posted on 10/17/2012 5:49:38 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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