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Election results reveal God is winning [Mormonism is winning]
Washington Post ^ | November 7, 2012 | Kathryn Skaggs

Posted on 11/22/2012 6:48:30 AM PST by greyfoxx39

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Though a Romney win, by many indicators felt within reach, it didn’t happen. However, the fact that it almost did - and with very few variables could have - this reality has changed everything for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints (Mormon) – for the good.

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As members of the LDS Church have taken increased opportunities to discuss their faith because of interest in Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, over time it became increasingly evident that no matter what sensitive issue came our way, be it baptism for the dead, racism, polygamy, Mormon temple worship, gender equality, etc… the chance to share our faith while clarifying Mormon teachings turned out to be a net positive.

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This evidence clearly suggests that Mormonism, now, can and should be considered a mainstream Christian religion.

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We have no interest, other than the hope of a general acceptance of our faith as Christian: to be considered the same as other Christian faiths. We understand that our message that boldly proclaims a restoration of the original Christian Church that Jesus Christ organized when He was upon the earth can be, at first, unsettling – and we’re perfectly all right with such reactions. We want our message to be different enough to compel the curious into allowing us to tell that story.

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As a Mormon, I see great hope in the results of this election. It has brought Mormonism out from relative obscurity, now clearly to be considered a mainstream Christian religion

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; cult; inman; mormon; politics
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To: Catsrus; teppe

Let US make man in OUR image.” Here you see the triune God in the creation.

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Also, we are commanded to baptize in the NAME (singular not plural) of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.


101 posted on 11/22/2012 11:05:13 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Catsrus

We will have to agree to disagree. I feel confident in the beliefs expressed in the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed. My faith in the Church founded by Jesus Christ and the authority he gave to Peter and his successors is unshakeable. Have a nice day.


102 posted on 11/22/2012 11:14:04 AM PST by mimaw
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To: reaganaut

Also, when Jesus was baptized - he came up out of the water, the Father spoke from heaven, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove. Another example of the trinity.

Well, I guess I’ve managed to stir the pot enough for one day. I have the Mormons and the Catholics angry with me. If they get angry because we attempt to correct their false beliefs in some areas, then so be it. I certainly don’t claim to know it all, as none of us do - however, I’ve studied every religion there is and have walked with the Lord for nearly 35 years. You do learn some things in that period of time, but none of us will ever know it all.

Peace to all and have a Happy Thanksgiving!


103 posted on 11/22/2012 11:17:01 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: teppe
I think it’s interesting that even Rev. Billy Graham close to his deathbed in preparation to meet God, has removed his proclamation of the LDS Chruch as a unchristian cult.

I keep seeing posts like this, even though they don't fully tell what happened. Graham's website had a page that described what constituted a 'cult', then listed Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientologists, the Unification Church, Universalists, Spiritists, and Mormons as examples of cults.

Graham never removed Mormons from that list. All his organization did was to remove the entire page on cults - in other words, he treated Mormonism exactly as he treated Moonies, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Scientologists,

When his organization was asked why this was done, they didn't say "because Mr. Graham no longer considers Mormons a cult".

The organization said they:

"removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign."

If I buy your explanation, then it follows that (paraphrasing you in conformity with the evidence) "Rev. Billy Graham close to his deathbed in preparation to meet God, has removed his proclamation of the Jehovah's Witnesses, Moonies, Universalists, Spiritists, and Scientologists as a unchristian cult."

That said, I respect your right, and the rights of others, to the free practice of your religion.

104 posted on 11/22/2012 11:17:51 AM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: mimaw

Of course, the church was founded by Jesus Christ. We don’t disagree on that.

Do I think Catholics will go to heaven? I believe there will be many Catholics in heaven for God looks at the heart and there are many Catholics who also give their lives for Jesus. Just like in any group - there are some strong - some weak. We are to pray for those who are weaker in the faith.

Peace and blessings.


105 posted on 11/22/2012 11:19:38 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: Scoutmaster; teppe

Scoutmaster is correct, the entire list of cults were removed, not just Mormonism. Also BGEA has stated that they still consider Mormonism a cult and I have verified this as well.

“We called the BGEA on October 24 and talked to a representative. When we asked if the media were putting words into BGEA’s proverbial mouth—that “Mormonism was no longer a cult”—the spokesman fully agreed that the BGEA’s action was being misinterpreted. He added that nowhere did the association ever make such a statement. According to Ken Barun, “We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.”

It can be debated whether this move was the wisest decision. In hindsight, the BGEA leadership must now understand that taking the article down created much more of a stir than if the article had just remained on the site. By deleting it, the media was able to twist this action into saying that Billy Graham must somehow no longer think that Mormonism is a cult. This simply is not the case.

http://www.mrm.org/billy-graham-mormonism-christianity

BGEA still considers Mormonism a cult.


106 posted on 11/22/2012 11:21:31 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Catsrus

Have a Happy Thanksgiving, brother!


107 posted on 11/22/2012 11:22:34 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m not sure I categorize Mormons as a cult. When I think of cults, I think of the Moonies, and those who followed Jim Jones. I do, however, think they err in their teachings.


108 posted on 11/22/2012 11:22:41 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus; Scoutmaster

There are generally 3 discipliary definitions of a cult. Mormonism fits all 3.

Anthropological - a religion

Sociological - a ‘high demand group’ Mormonism is all about control of members, what they read, what they think, how they dress similar to moonies.

Theological - a group that seeks to be part of a larger parent religion (in this case Christianity) that does not accept the basic theological and historical tenants of that faith. Again, Mormonism fits this definition.


109 posted on 11/22/2012 11:26:16 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Catsrus
I,ll certainly sleep well tonight knowing you believe some of us Catholics will make it to Heaven.
110 posted on 11/22/2012 11:27:52 AM PST by mimaw
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To: teppe

Ok so no trinity, then how many gods are there?


111 posted on 11/22/2012 11:32:29 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Catsrus
I’m not sure I categorize Mormons as a cult.

You'll note that I never said whether or not I believe Mormonism is a cult. I try my best to refrain from theological discussions on FR, although sometimes I've strayed.

I will write about Mormon and LDS history - but I try to avoid theology.

112 posted on 11/22/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“As to the triune God making sense to humans... Revelation about the divine doesn’t make sense to humans. Doesn’t have to. We see that God is One in the Bible. We see each member of the Godhead has all the attributes of God. We rightly conclude there is One God who has three Persons. Settled in the face of cultic opposition more than a thousand years ago.”

Please explain in the following scripture, who Christ was talking to during his time in the Garden of Gethsemane prior to his crucifixion: to Himself or to His Father in Heaven?

Luke22:42 [KJV]

“Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.”

“...Settled in the face of cultic opposition more than a thousand years ago.”

please explain who this group of men were who met and decided as a committee the true nature of the Godhead?


113 posted on 11/22/2012 12:02:34 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: Catsrus

Your last sentence sums up the LDS right nicely...


114 posted on 11/22/2012 12:07:04 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: greyfoxx39

“Someone in the mormon church decided that more converts/more money could be gained by pretending to accept Christianity. But the belief remains that ONLY through mormon membership and taking part in arcane rituals in mormon temples can salvation be gained. “

not quite accurate. you must understand the difference between “salvation” and “exaltation” as the mormons call it. mormons believe that all mankind will be saved thru the atonement of Jesus, but exaltation to one of 3 kingdoms in heaven is dependent on one’s good works, obedience to the Gospel and to other ordinances, as well as repentance and baptism.


115 posted on 11/22/2012 12:13:18 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: reaganaut; teppe

Ouch...


116 posted on 11/22/2012 12:14:13 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: teppe
Sorry, I have recent ancestors within the last 170 years who were murdered for thier beliefs, because they didn’t conform to main-stream Christianity.

I would like to see the source for that, do you mind posting it?

117 posted on 11/22/2012 12:16:35 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: IWONDR

1. Mormons always ask this... The incarnate Christ was praying to the Father, in dependence and submission th Him.

2. Wish I had time to teach you more about Church history, but it is Thanksgiving and if you look outside Mormon sources you will find the facts.

Blessings to you on this day,
ampu


118 posted on 11/22/2012 12:16:35 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: IWONDR
exaltation to one of 3 kingdoms in heaven is dependent on one’s good works, obedience to the Gospel and to other ordinances,

One of the most prominent, is the required 10% financial commitment isn't it, for the highest heaven?

119 posted on 11/22/2012 12:19:58 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Catsrus

“One cannot obtain salvation and remain in ignorance to the Word. “

What happens to everyone else?


120 posted on 11/22/2012 12:30:43 PM PST by GalaxyAB
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