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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: metmom
>>How can you be sure? Were you there watching them 24/7?<<

To Catholics the RCC said so, they believe it, that settles it.

2,101 posted on 01/18/2013 7:49:40 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Ann Archy

The competing versions of bibles we have today have basically two points of origination:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNv-zzpIwBs&feature=youtube_gdata


2,102 posted on 01/18/2013 7:49:54 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: CynicalBear
Paul said to even check what he taught with scripture but the RCC says check with them before reading scripture.

Kind of right, but not 100%...Christ established a church for that very purpose, otherwise it would not be necessary at all. The very existance of 20,000 "Denomiations" of protestantism prove that fact. Christ established 1 church, Catholicism, and gave her the keys to the kingdom of Heaven, she did just fine for over 1,600 years until along came Martin and the gang to set things straight...no, do it this way....no do it that way....no this is truth, ....no that is truth.....no, being Catholic is too hard, we like to sleep in on Sunday,....no, going to confession is a pain and embarrasing, ....no, music is not allowed in church...., no, statues are icons and someone probably prays to them, ....no you have to dunk someone under water to baptize them,....no, it's just bread and wine, not the body and blood of Jesus (even though He said it was)...it goes on and on...when a group of dissidents leaves any organization, they come up with a zillion reasons to justify, in their minds, why they did so....sad

2,103 posted on 01/18/2013 7:53:12 PM PST by terycarl
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To: metmom
"How can you be sure?"

Why can't you extend your argument from absence rationalization about Mary's sex life to her assumption? Both have equal Scriptural support. Could it be that one fits your anti-Catholic shtick and one doesn't?

2,104 posted on 01/18/2013 7:55:39 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: terycarl
how many times are you going to repost that inane “bad Popes list”????

Just about every time something bad is posted about Protestants; why?

Does it bother you that CATHOLICism produced such men?

2,105 posted on 01/18/2013 7:58:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
I say something in jest and suddenly ir becomes dogma....

Nope; you said something in ERROR and you were corrected.

You do not LIKE to be corrected.

2,106 posted on 01/18/2013 8:00:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law

Honest question: If the pope must confess to a jesuit (the black pope) who does the black pope confess to?


2,107 posted on 01/18/2013 8:00:41 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: terycarl
Elijah foretold Jesus, he did not introduce Him.

I guess there may be others that DID NOT look up the verse; too, so here it is: 18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

2,108 posted on 01/18/2013 8:02:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; CynicalBear
The very existance of 20,000 "Denomiations" of protestantism prove that fact

So which flavor of the 20+ some Catholic rites is the correct one?

It doesn't matter if there is 20 or 20,000. The fact that there are more than one shows that the Catholic church is in no different position than the *Protestants* they condemn.

2,109 posted on 01/18/2013 8:02:49 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: daniel1212; metmom
That is neither repentance or an apology.

You DO know with whom you are dealing; right?

2,110 posted on 01/18/2013 8:03:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
...only that church is in truth, without error, or possibllity of error....



2,112 posted on 01/18/2013 8:05:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
...only that church is in truth, without error, or possibllity of error....





Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

2,113 posted on 01/18/2013 8:06:16 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
>>she did just fine for over 1,600 years<<

Did just fine you say? The RCC incorporated Pagan rituals, ceremonies, and symbols. Incorporated the “queen of heaven” from pagan religions. The RCC killed people they called “heretics” in some of the most horrendous ways. The RCC made up things like a sinless Mary, the assumption of Mary, and “Christianized” the many gods of the pagans and called them “Saints”. You call that “did just fine”? I think not so much.

Interesting that in your little diatribe you don’t mention anything of salvation through Christ alone but focus only on institutions of man’s making. I find that very telling. It’s typical of those who follow religions based on “new revelation” or “extra Biblical” teaching.

One thing Catholics always seem to forget is that now where has it been stated that I can tell that any of those other “denominations” don’t also have their error. It’s simply that none of those other “religions” tie salvation to anything other than Christ that I can tell. The RCC, Muslims, and Mormons on the other hand tie salvation to belonging to that organization.

2,114 posted on 01/18/2013 8:09:05 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
Attributing motives to another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

2,115 posted on 01/18/2013 8:09:21 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: NYer

Honest question: If the pope must confess to a jesuit (the black pope) who does the black pope confess to?


2,116 posted on 01/18/2013 8:09:53 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: Natural Law
Both have equal Scriptural support.

No; Bob; they don't.

2,117 posted on 01/18/2013 8:10:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro
"Still don't understand the concept of born again Christians?"

Catholics are "born from above" (gennatha anothen) at baptism. Catholics also experience regeneration, which matches the Evangelical definition (Titus 3:5) and conversion.

Peace be with you

2,119 posted on 01/18/2013 8:10:53 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
>>Both have equal Scriptural support.<<

Really!!!!! Could you show where in scripture the assumption of Mary is tought?

2,120 posted on 01/18/2013 8:11:03 PM PST by CynicalBear
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