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To: HarleyD

Paul was the ONLY learned of the Disciples. The others were common men, fishers and such. FACT.

Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation. It’s by Him people are saved. So I suppose you can KNOW who knows and follows another person? It’s Jesus who determines who is saved, not us. Not by reading a book, or attending church, or doing good works. We should NOT JUDGE, especially the eternal things.

I wonder why Jesus never taught on the 5 points. And why the Church was “lost” until the reform....Obviously it was not, it’s just that hypercalvinist reforms measure all things by the Reformation not the Resurrection.

There is nothing wrong with studying the things of God. What is wrong is somehow creating a special set of structure other than what scripture teaches.
This was done in Jesus’ day, in the Roman Catholic Church, and the Protestant Church today.

As I stated earlier, the Disciples DID NOT attend Seminary. They didn’t speak in “Religious” terms.

As far as a Muslim being saved, he must not continue to place his faith in Islam, and listen to the General Revelation. If the man never met a Christian, God would give him all the information he needs to be saved. However, it is the PRIVILEDGE of a Christian to share his faith with such a one. We are God’s ambassadors.

One last point: Just about all the true men of God have been called Heretics and put to death. By the “Church”.

God is not interested in the corruption we have made of religion. He is interested in us, our souls and our hearts, our worship and our repentance. He is not interested in our works, or our sacrifices. They are rags to a perfect God. It is by His grace we are allowed to contribute to the Kingdom.


30 posted on 01/19/2013 4:28:07 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
I wonder why Jesus never taught on the 5 points.

Hmmmmm.....

Total Depravity...

Unconditional Election...

Limited Atonement...

Irresistable Grace...

Preseverance of the Saints...

These are just a few of the verses. I wouldn't be so hasty to say such a thing. One of the things I've learned is that you cannot truly understand the book of John without understanding the TULIP.
33 posted on 01/19/2013 6:15:35 PM PST by HarleyD
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