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To: fwdude

I don’t think you totally understand the Rosary.

What are the mysteries? Only two of them are NOT about Christ.

Let’s take a look.

Joyful — first set is about Christ’s childhood
Annunciation — announcing the oncoming birth of Christ
Visitation — Mary shares the news with Elizabeth and St. John the Baptist leaps in Elizabeth womb, because he recognizes Christ in Mary’s womb.
The Nativity — Birth of Christ
Presntation — according to Jewish custom, the baby is presented in the temple.
Finding the Child Jesus in the temple — where he was talking with and asking questions of the wise men of the church.

Luminous — this new second set of mysteries is about Christ’s life of ministry
The Baptism of Christ in the Jordan — St. John the Baptist recognizes the Lamb of God, the Holy Spirit descends upon Christ and the voice of God the Father is heard.
Jesus Manifests Himself at the Wedding of Cana — the working of Christ’s first miracle.
The Prclamation of the Kingdom of God and the Call to Conversion — Christ talks to the multitudes about the coming Kingdom of God and calls them to conversion — often forgiving their sins.
The Transfiguration — Christ appears in glory with Moses and Elijah and is witnessed by Peter, John and James.
The Institution of the Holy Eucharist — Christ institutes the Eucharist at the Last Supper.

OK — so far? All about Jesus, aren’t they?

Moving on to the Passion of Christ — the Sorrowful Mysteries
The Agony in the Garden — Christ prays in the Garden of Gethsemane
The Scourging at the Pillar — thousands and thousands of blows suffered for our sins
The Crowning of Thorns — done by the Roman soldiers as they mock Christ
Jesus Carries His Cross — all the way to Golgotha with the help of Simon the Cyrenian
The Crucifixion — Jesus dies on the Cross for our sins.

Now the Glorious mysteries
The Resurrection of the Lord — as witnessed by St. Mary Magdalene, as recognized by the two disciples on the way to Emmaus — all the Easter miracles. Appearing to the apostles even though the door is locked. Being on the shore cooking for the apostles after they have been out all night fishing and caught nothing, then experience a miracle draught of fish at the Lord’s command to cast the net on the other side of the boat.
The Ascension — apostles, disciples and other followers watch as Jesus ascends bodily into heaven
Descent of the Holy Spirit — The Apostles and Disciples convert 3000 people through the miracle of speaking in the onlookers’ native language.
Now — the two and only two about Mary —
The Assumption — Mary taken bodily to heaven by angels as related by apostles and Early Church Fathers.
The Cornonation of Mary as the Queen (mother) of Heaven

There you go — out of 20 mysteries — only two are about Mary.

Next questio~~ I suppose you want the Biblical connotations. LOL!

As we pray the Rosary of the Day, saying the Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory Be and the Fatima Prayer, we concentrate and meditate on these individual mysteries. It (the Rosary) is a meditation on the entire Life of Christ.


32 posted on 07/22/2013 4:25:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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37 posted on 07/22/2013 4:32:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; NYer; fwdude; daniel1212
... As we pray the Rosary of the Day, saying the Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory Be and the Fatima Prayer, we concentrate and meditate on these individual mysteries. It (the Rosary) is a meditation on the entire Life of Christ. ...

New International Version (©2011) - And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.

New Living Translation (©2007)- "When you pray, don't babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again.

English Standard Version (©2001)- “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)- "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)- But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)- When you pray, don't babble like the idolaters, since they imagine they'll be heard for their many words.

International Standard Version (©2012)- "When you are praying, don't say meaningless things like the unbelievers do, because they think they will be heard by being so wordy.

75 posted on 07/22/2013 6:17:29 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Our nation endures and our government... has not perished from the earth."-Sarah Palin 7/1/13)
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To: Salvation

Is it doctrine or just pious belief that Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. I believe Eastern Catholics consider her as falling asleep in The Lord, but it is only a pious belief that she was bodily assumed thereafter.

Please feel free to correct me on Eastern Catholic faith if you should know better. Whereas I have disagreements with the RCC, they must always be addressed honestly without distortion of the teachings. I truly believe that God will grant mercy to those that truly believe, even with error as long as they don’t blaspheme and distort the truth.


107 posted on 07/22/2013 7:03:16 PM PDT by JosephW (Mohammad Lied, People die!)
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