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To: wmfights; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
I thought this was pretty interesting. Any thoughts?

I need a 'day' or so to think about it.

12 posted on 08/05/2013 6:57:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

LOLOL!


23 posted on 08/05/2013 7:30:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: UCANSEE2; wmfights; betty boop; donmeaker; DManA; TXnMA
We've been talking all around this subject on another thread and I had occasion to mention Schroeder's article. From my last past over there speaking to an atheist Freeper:

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." - Gen 1:1

CMB [cosmic microwave background] measurements from the 1960s forward all confirm that the universe is expanding which means there was a beginning of real space and real time. This is the most theological statement ever to come out of modern science (Jastrow.)

Space/time does not pre-exist, it is created as the universe expands.

All of the steady state theories were debunked [by this discovery] and physical cosmologists turned instead to multi-verse, multi-world, cyclic, ekpyrotic, imaginary time models - all of which result in an infinite regress falsely demanding prior universes comply with the physical laws and constants of this one.

The only closed physical cosmology known to me is Max Tegmark's Level IV parallel universe which posits that 4D is a manifestation of mathematical structures which actually do exist outside of space and time.

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." - Gen 1:2

Jewish Physicist Gerald Schroeder (who I hadn't yet quoted on thread) points out that when one considers the Big Bang theory and Relativity (Inflationary Model) - that it becomes apparent that some 15 billion years at our present space/time coordinates is equal to about a week at the inception space/time coordinates. See Age of the Universe

And on this thread, TXnMA brought up isotropy v anisotropy - that "without anisotropy we could not exist; without isotropy we cannot survive."

In the first 300,000 years after the Big Bang from our present space/time coordinates, the universe was an isotropic hot watery soup.

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." - Gen 1:3

Then came anisotropy.

If you read the article TXnMA presented at 66 and we discussed at 68 and 83 - and the additional article I posted at 68 - or listened to the sounds I linked at 68, you might have noticed that the Cosmic Microwave Background records the sound waves at the exact moment (300,000 years after the Big Bang from our space/time coordinates) at which photons decoupled from electrons and neutrons, atoms formed and light went its way.

And God said "Let there be light."

If you don't see this as evidence, we can't make you. But it practically screams to TXnMA and to me - and perhaps others on this thread.

By the way, light is used throughout Scripture as a metaphor for God's Shekinah glory. The metaphor is perfect because photons travel a "null path" - for the photon, no time elapses at all. [The photon is timeless. God is not bound by time either nor by space.] Space/time are part of the creation, not a restriction on or property of the Creator of them.

What would Bedouin goat herders know about any of this that they could fabricate such a story thousands of years ago?!


35 posted on 08/05/2013 8:05:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: UCANSEE2

Shoot, I’ll need a heckuva lot longer than that!

Several days, at least.


40 posted on 08/05/2013 9:09:29 PM PDT by jodyel
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