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Questions for "Bible Christians" that they can't answer - Part 2
Catholic Convert ^ | October 27, 2013 | David Palm and Steve Ray

Posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer

There are 38 questions + a few bonus questions. I have split them into two separate posts of 20 and 18 + bonus questions. In case you missed it, here is the link to Part 1. Are you ready?

21. Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?

22. Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?

23. Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?

24. How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?

25. If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?

26. How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?

27. If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?

28. If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?

29. If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?

30. If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?

31. The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?

32. If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?

33. Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible "unity" that exists only in the hearts of believers?

34. If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?

35. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you." What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church's leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?

36. The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?

37. How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?

38. What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?

A Few Bonus Questions

Where does the Bible . . .

. . . say God created the world/universe out of nothing?

. . . say salvation is attainable through faith alone?

. . . tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?

. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?

. . . tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?

. . . inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?

. . . who wrote the Book of Acts?

. . . tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?

. . . .tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn't infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?

. . . that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?

. . . that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?

. . . tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: antiprotestantrant; bible; biblequestions; christians; faith; romancatholicism; scripture; sectarianturmoil
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As a point of information

Contrary to what some have suggested in their comments on Part 1, these posts are NOT about dissension and discord. As I commented on the previous thread:

On the contrary, the purpose of this thread is to encourage Bible Christians to pull together, to prayerfully reflect on what they have been taught. The word "truth" appears in the Bible, in the singular. There can be only one Truth. If anything, the erroneous theory of sola scriptura has split and divided the christian community into thousands of communities.

According to Scripture, Christ wanted us to be one (John 17:22-23). We are all as a Church to be of one mind and to think the same (Philippians 2:2; Romans 15:5). There is only to be one "faith" (Ephesians 4:3-6), not many.


1 posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Part 2 ping!


2 posted on 10/27/2013 5:26:20 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

36. Mohammed was not a prophet by Biblical standards. There is not a single miracle attributed to him. He contradicted much of the Bible. He required his followers to actually believe in him, similar to Christ I suppose but unlike any of the others (the purpose being to recruit them for his wars). And of course he denied that Jesus was the Christ, which a Muslim would certainly understand because that would make them all Christians instead.

I assume the answer to the bonus questions is “no where”.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 5:43:22 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: NYer

Christianity is not bound by the Bible.


4 posted on 10/27/2013 5:59:09 AM PDT by lafarge
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Correct, again this shows Christ founded a Church not a Book.


5 posted on 10/27/2013 6:16:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

By what authority is this church you speak of?


6 posted on 10/27/2013 6:19:16 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

Christ’s authority.


7 posted on 10/27/2013 6:24:01 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Explain.

How do you assume Christ wanted/ started a church?

8 posted on 10/27/2013 6:25:47 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

silliness


9 posted on 10/27/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: NYer
#28. is an interesting question which automatically brings up another: Why was the state established church at the time so intent on keeping the Bible inaccessible to the masses that they actually burned people at the stake for actually having it translated and printed into the vernacular language?
11 posted on 10/27/2013 6:33:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mountn man

Ephesians 2:20-22, Nicene Creed which many Churches use as well.


12 posted on 10/27/2013 6:36:01 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Vigilanteman

All the same, let’s not forget Protestants burned people to death as well.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 6:37:19 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: NYer

can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?

Sure you can, no law against it, then you can start your own church if you can get a couple of people to follow you. Often these are called cults though.


14 posted on 10/27/2013 6:38:55 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: BeadCounter
Overwhelmingly Calvinists, not all Protestants.

Jan Has, as just one example, never tried to impose his conscience on anyone.

15 posted on 10/27/2013 6:39:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mountn man

You seem to have many strong OPINIONS.
Not much based on facts.


16 posted on 10/27/2013 6:40:01 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: BeadCounter

“Ephesians 2:20-22, Nicene Creed which many Churches use as well.”

Might as well be asked to defend the Trinity which most Protestants but not all believe in. It’s all in the Bible and early Church documents, some Protestants accept.


17 posted on 10/27/2013 6:40:56 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: aumrl
Explain.

What are these "opinion" that I have espoused?

18 posted on 10/27/2013 6:42:04 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Vigilanteman

Not all Catholics have burnt people at the stake as well.


19 posted on 10/27/2013 6:42:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
So, let me get this straight.

John 1:1 says: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.

But you say Christ didn't come to start a book.

Then the very book you claim he didn't come to start, you claim as the authority by which the church was founded?

20 posted on 10/27/2013 6:47:39 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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