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>> However, I must caution, we are putting doubts on Jewish brothers and sisters who actually met and walked physically on earth with Christ and saying that perhaps they did not drink from the same Well which gives us Living Water.<<

Not once was that the case. The only contention is that the 12 apostles clearly did not fully understand the change that had taken place. One only needs to look at the attitude of Peter about going to the house of Cornelius to understand that. You have misrepresented most everything that was shown to you. Again, shame on you.

You have misrepresented most everything that was shown to you. Again, shame on you.

I'm not sure that he misrepresented what was shown to him as that seems to imply deliberate intent.

I've been reading along this discussion and while I am no stranger to the NT, the epistles and Corinthians, by any means, I've found my head spinning with all the dates put forth and what Paul said and what Peter said, and who did what when and for how long. This is some pretty meaty stuff.

Granted, much of the NT makes much more sense when viewed in light of there being different dispensations, one of which gradually replaced the other, and God having a slightly different program for dealing with different people groups, but there are still things which still don't fit neatly.

There are some things that I am just going to have to decide that I am not going to lost sleep over. And I will focus on witnessing on Jesus Christ as the Author and Perfecter of our faith, and reconciling people to God through faith in Him.

Matter of fact, as a result of this thread (IIRC) and a link posted to John MacArthur's *Strange Fire Conference* about the Word of Faith movement, I have been doing some research into that movement and am very alarmed with what I've been uncovering about the New Apostolic Reformation and the Word of Faith movement that has been infiltrating the church.

So I am going to continue to read this thread and glean from it what I can, but not be participating in it.

I too have no doubt about the salvation by grace through faith in Christ of anyone in this discussion.

Not once was that the case. The only contention is that the 12 apostles clearly did not fully understand the change that had taken place. One only needs to look at the attitude of Peter about going to the house of Cornelius to understand that. You have misrepresented most everything that was shown to you. Again, shame on you.

We will have to agree that we disagree and depart in peace.

God Bless

Not once was that the case. The only contention is that the 12 apostles clearly did not fully understand the change that had taken place.

Change denotes something different, right? Was that 'change' a change in gospel, dispensation, program? What would you call it? If the point now is everyone to include those on Pentecost were saved by grace through faith but did not fully understand it was grace even though they were saved by grace, then that is another change in position. One that I could agree on. A point I made hundreds of posts ago that perhaps they had 'an' understanding but Paul as the master theologian recorded it and exhorted it to all.