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To: CynicalBear
Same place he commanded the Feast of the Dedication. You know, the one which is not in the Bible (even the events it commemorates are not in your Bible, though they are in mine), and which Jesus observed anyway.
34 posted on 12/02/2013 6:36:15 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion
>> Same place he commanded the Feast of the Dedication.<<

Sure it is. Everybody knows that.

38 posted on 12/02/2013 6:54:31 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Campion; CynicalBear

The answer [which you] provided makes little to no sense to the question it pretends to answer, unless Judas Maccabees is mistaken for being Jesus Christ.

Note the difference between an altar being re-established to again offer sacrifice to God according to Mosaic Law, and that particular Judas taking it upon himself to order that the re-establishment itself of that altar be "observed". Those two separate aspects, are not one-and-the-same.

Notice also, that although Christ was present in Jerusalem during later observances of that festival (John 10:22-42)--- He spoke not of that festival directly, either for or against it. Promoting some sense that Christ allegedly observed that particular festival as being shall we say "kosher" (you did say he "observed anyway") is just that --- an allegation, an assertion, a reading in-between-the-lines that which has no other support save for powers of assumption applied right precisely there...other than reliance upon the Jews, during that Intertestamental period, having adopted this festival of lights even as during that period there was no recognized, true prophet, among them.

Rather, what Christ spoke of was fully beyond the model which the Maccabees demonstrated, for His kingdom is not of this world (though I expect that aspect to fly right over many people's heads).

To further assume that Jesus being present at that festival --- in some way asserted also that celebrations of His own earthly birth be a "feast day", is a yet further leap. Though if one wishes to commemorate, celebrate, invite the relatives and neighbors for a feast-day in His honor --- then go ahead, I won't stop anyone. (In fact --- what time should I be expected, and is there any possible way I could talk the cooks into baking an "extra" pumpkin or sweet potato pie?)

As one additional note: Josephus made mention (Ant. 12.7.7; "the feast of lights.") that same writer disavowed that what is known as the OT Apocrypha, or what has been termed [since the Council of Trent] the Deuterocanonical was accepted by the Jews as being included in their own Holy Writ...

So if you will excuse me for saying so, on the basis of that which I now bring, I must say; that in your own attempt at response to the previous question posed, regarding the day of His own earthly birth

you have either a hand full of nothing, or not very much, not much at all...

So to keep me quiet about it...there is a plan...being that is difficult to talk and eat at the same time...

49 posted on 12/02/2013 8:25:50 PM PST by BlueDragon (...just keep shoveling those slices of pie over my way --- and it will be a Merry Christmas)
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