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To: Alex Murphy

Now wait just a darn minute, here. If transubstantiation changes all of this stuff into the real body of Jesus, what difference does the “starter” make?


3 posted on 12/05/2013 7:58:23 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Yeah. Doesn’t transubstantiation miraculously remove the gluten as it becomes the body of Christ?

God didn’t forget something in this magic plan, did He?


4 posted on 12/05/2013 8:02:51 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Dutchboy88

Transubstantiation changes (wheat) bread into the real body of Christ—the question is what constitutes wheat bread. If it isn’t bread, it isn’t happening.


5 posted on 12/05/2013 8:10:02 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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Lo-gluten transubstantiates into Al Franken. . . . (evil grin)


6 posted on 12/05/2013 8:12:05 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Dutchboy88

exactly. Gotta say I’m rolling my eyes at the diocese on this decision. Sometimes rigid adherence to MANMADE doctrines is what makes nonChristians shake their heads at us and say “no way do I want to live like those people!”

I like to think that perhaps Jesus also is shaking His head at the dumb MANMADE stuff that we put in place to separate us and keep us apart (”i am more special than you”) when He came to bring us ALL to the Kingdom of Heaven! Sometimes modern day Christians and Catholics can act just like those Pharisees in His time did...


8 posted on 12/05/2013 8:16:47 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Dutchboy88
If transubstantiation changes all of this stuff into the real body of Jesus, what difference does the “starter” make?

Jesus took "bread." I'm told that words have meaning, especially the words found in the Bible.

And... "if"?

For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. [i.e., have died]


10 posted on 12/05/2013 8:20:03 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Dutchboy88
if transubstantiation changes all of this stuff to the real body of Jesus, what difference does the "starter" make?

Maybe you have to start with wheat or it'll transubstantiate into someone else?

Even as a kid, I remember saying in religion class that I didn't want to go to communion because I didn't want to eat people.

14 posted on 12/05/2013 8:26:06 AM PST by grania
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To: Dutchboy88

Who knew that eating the real literal body of Christ would cause health problems.


55 posted on 12/05/2013 3:40:37 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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