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Do John Hagee or Perry Stone support Messianic Jews and/or Messianic Jewish Rabbis?
1/7/2014 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 01/07/2014 1:55:57 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Just wondering if anyone had any definitive facts on this, as I can't seem to find any.

If Perry Stone has Rabbis that he works with on spiritual matters, are they all Messianic Jewish Rabbis, some, or none?


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: hagee; johnhagee; messianicjewishrabbi; messianicjews; perrystone; rabbischneider; schneider
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1 posted on 01/07/2014 1:55:57 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

I haven’t seen Messianic Jew, Rabbi Schneider, for example, on Christian television with either of them.

Maybe I just missed it...


2 posted on 01/07/2014 1:58:32 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: sf4dubya

Beg to differ.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 2:20:34 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: sf4dubya

“Messianic Jew” is an oxymoron

Not to a Messianic Jew.


5 posted on 01/07/2014 2:22:39 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If they don’t they darn well should


6 posted on 01/07/2014 2:24:18 PM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I cannot speak for Perry Stone but Hagee does not support Messianic Jews. He holds a dual covenant belief and does not believe the Jews need the gospel.

John Hagee Info
7 posted on 01/07/2014 2:26:41 PM PST by slumber1 (Fortune favors the bold!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Problem is that they don’t keep it to themselves. They use that misleading title as a way to lure Jews to abandon their own faith without understanding that this is what they are doing. Nothing wrong with Christians, but when they set out to deceive they are as evil and duplicitous as any other fraudster.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 2:28:48 PM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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11 posted on 01/07/2014 2:50:28 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

John Hagee supports John Hagee.

All about the money.


12 posted on 01/07/2014 2:54:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Real Messianics do not have Rabbis.

Yeshua said do not be called Rabbi (great one) for only Yehova is great.


13 posted on 01/07/2014 2:56:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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>> ““Messianic Jew” is an oxymoron.” <<

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Your’s is a nonsensical statement.

Jew simply means of the House of Judah.

In Jerusalem the messianics out-number the foot draggers.


14 posted on 01/07/2014 2:59:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sf4dubya; SkyDancer; aMorePerfectUnion; Piranha
“Messianic Jew” is an oxymoron.

I'm not sure what god you follow.

I follow Yah'shua, who is, was and will always be a
Jewish Priest and Jewish King.

All of the Apostles were Torah observant
messianic Jews.

The wheels came off in 325CE at Nicea.

Have a wonderful journey.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
15 posted on 01/07/2014 3:01:24 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: slumber1
Hagee doesn't believe Yeshua!
Matthew 15:

[24] But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel

16 posted on 01/07/2014 3:08:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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i will NOT get sucked into religion threads .. i will NOT get sucked into religion threads .. i will NOT get sucked into religion threads ..

17 posted on 01/07/2014 3:11:12 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Piranha
"Problem is that they don’t keep it to themselves. They use that misleading title as a way to lure Jews to abandon their own faith without understanding that this is what they are doing."

I don't think they use a "misleading title." They are openly followers of Jesus, which you would find out in the first ten minutes of speaking with them. It's not as if they are putting up a false front in order to trick Jews into embracing Christianity. Some Jews object to the "messianic Jews" appellation, but that is THEIR problem.
18 posted on 01/07/2014 3:20:18 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: sf4dubya

The first Christians were all Jews.


19 posted on 01/07/2014 3:22:59 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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It is disingenuous for you to say that some Jews object to the appellation “messianic Jews” but this is the Jews’ problem. The whole reason they took on that name is as part of a marketing strategy to convince Jews that they could continue to Jews while becoming Christians. For Jews this is not true, and therefore this is not the Jews’ problem.

Look at the history of so-called Messianic Jews. They did not exist until the 1960s under a former Jew called Moishe Rosen who evangelized among Jews. To this day they set up centers in Jewish neighborhoods and try to convince Jews that it is okay to be Christian and Jewish at the same time under the name “Messianic Jew.”

This is duplicitous fraud.


20 posted on 01/07/2014 3:29:30 PM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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