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Satanism & the Eucharist [Satan knows the Truth. Do you?]
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Posted on 01/30/2014 10:07:37 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Satanism & the Eucharist

April 24, 2004

During my parish work last summer in France, one of my responsibilities was participating in a weekly prayer group for young adults who had fallen away from the Church. The last meeting of the summer, one of the guys made a surprising revelation to us all: before his conversion, he had been a full-fledged Satanist.

This reflection is the true story of that conversation and what I learned from it.


Satanism & the Eucharist

One of the most chilling moments in The Passion was during the Lord’s scourging, when Satan appears cradling a baby who slowly turns to reveal a hideous face. Here Satan is mocking Jesus and Mary by presenting himself as a twisted sort of “anti” Madonna and Child, as if to proclaim that he and his offspring have won, and not the woman and her offspring as foretold in Genesis 3:15. This is how the Evil One loves to work—Satan loves to mock God by imitating the holy and twisting it in a sick way. This past summer I was struck with this truth in a totally new way.

Nicolas had been a part of the prayer group all year long, but this was the first time that he had talked about his life before his conversion. He told us about how he became involved in Satanism while in his late teens. It enslaved him, bringing despair and utter loneliness to his life, to the point where he was tormented with thoughts of suicide. He felt trapped and helpless in its grasp. It was only through the constant prayers of his mother that he was finally freed from this slavery a couple of years ago, and he began to give his life back to Christ.

I had never met anyone like Nicolas, openly admitting a past involvement in Satanism. After the initial shock, I bombarded him with three questions, one after another. First, how did they ‘worship’ Satan? I had always heard that it was not anything like worshipping an image of Satan or singing hymns, but by having a so-called “Black Mass.” In other words, their entire service is a mockery of the Catholic Mass. Was this true, I asked him? Not a Protestant preaching service, not a Buddhist temple ritual, but an explicit mockery of our Mass? “Yes,” Nicolas told us, “that is true.”

I had also heard, I continued, that Satanists steal consecrated communion bread from their local Catholic churches which they desecrate at these black services. For example, I have heard of Catholic parishes where this is such a problem that the pastor is forced to post special attendants during Holy Communion who watch to make sure that no one receives the Eucharist and walks away without consuming the host. The Satanists take these consecrated hosts to their services—these wafers of “bread” that Catholics believe have been miraculously transformed by the Holy Spirit into the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ—and desecrate them with spit, bodily waste, and other such unimaginable blasphemies. Before your conversion, I asked Nicolas, did you and your fellow Satanists steal consecrated hosts for this purpose? “Yes,” Nicolas answered, “we did.”

The poor guy probably felt like he was being interrogated by the CIA by this point, but knowing that I might never have this opportunity again, I asked Nicolas one final question. I told him that I had also heard that those who were very deep in Satanism could actually tell whether a communion host had been consecrated or not. For example, they will not steal communion bread from Protestant communion meals, nor will they steal unblessed communion bread for desecration at these “Black Masses.” It would not work because some of the Satanists would immediately recognize that it was just ordinary bread. They would be able to tell that Jesus Christ was not sacramentally present there.

I asked Nicolas whether this also was true. He again replied that it is, and he told us that he could do this himself before his conversion from Satanism. A chill went down my spine. If someone were to put ten identical communion hosts in front of him, nine unconsecrated and one consecrated, he would have been able to point directly and immediately to the host that had been consecrated. I asked him in amazement, “But how were you able to know?!?” He looked at me and the words he spoke are forever burned in my memory: “Because of the hate,” he said. “Because of the burning hate I would feel toward that host, apart from all the others.”

His words hit me like a baseball bat. Some of the saints also had this mystical knowledge of the Lord’s Eucharistic presence, but this knowledge flowed from their deep union with Christ. Nicolas, on the other hand, knew Christ’s presence because his worship of Satan had worked the opposite mystical connection to the Eucharist—he knew Jesus was there not because of his love for Jesus, but because of his deep hate. It makes my skin crawl just to think about such hatred.

This is how Satan operates. He loves to mock whatever is holy and sacred, to imitate the truth and twist it in a perverse way. The Mass is the most sacred prayer on earth, the most awesome way for us Christians to offer worship to our Lord, so Satan has his followers worship him through a mockery of that prayer. Instead of lifting the Eucharist high with adoration and loving reverence, the Eucharist is thrown to the ground with loathing and derision. Rather than knowing Christ’s true presence in the sacrament through their love, they perversely recognize Christ’s presence through their hatred.

Let’s not pretend otherwise—it is scary to hear a story like Nicolas’. It is terrifying to realize that such evil exists in this world. But more than frighten us, his testimony should give us hope, comfort, and strength. Satan does exist and he is powerful, but Jesus Christ is infinitely more powerful. Even the most wicked sinner can be brought back to the love of the Lord, through Christ’s grace and through the prayers of believers (like Nicolas’ mother!) If Satan so despises the Mass, then we should be moved to even greater devotion, preparation, and participation in Mass. If Satan so despises the Lord’s true presence in the Eucharist, then our hearts should burn with even greater love and thirst for worthily receiving Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. “Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.”



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To: Biggirl
Conversion to the Lord is ongoing, not one time, and life long.

That is what Catholicism teaches. The Bible describes it different.

Being born again happens only once and if done by following the scriptures a person is a Christian and is saved, part of the Kingdom of God.

Study the New Testament to see the scriptural proof.

If Catholics want to have an ongoing conversion (conversion to Catholicism?) that is their choice. Fine with me.

101 posted on 01/30/2014 7:10:33 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: LurkingSince'98
....I used to post in the Catholic forum...

Where is that? On Free Republic? At another website?

This thread is in the Religion Forum (if that is what you meant by "Catholic" forum), it is not just for Catholics or just about Catholicism.

You will find a lot of plain old run of the mill devoted Bible believing Christians here.

It's been said before the the owner of Free Republic is a Catholic, and also that the Religion Moderator is a Catholic. Who noes?

102 posted on 01/30/2014 7:17:58 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

no not exclusively a Catholic movie, just a very Catholic movie.

Lots of Catholic imagery surrounding the events of Good Friday, namely the
1) the Agony in the Garden,
2) the Scourging at the Pillar,
3) the Crowning with thorns,
4) the Carrying of the Cross, and
5) the Crucifixition and Death of Christ, all in excruciating detail. (PS all of the above make up the Meditations on the Sorrowful Mysteries when Catholics pray the Rosary.

All of the above are visually interwoven into the Institution of the Eucharist on Holy Thursday, which is shown how the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross is directly a part of His sacrifice in offering the faithful His Flesh to eat, which Catholics do on the Lords Day.

My quibble was not with their ability to discuss a movie, any movie, it is with their virulently anti-Catholic attitudes and the hate speech they engaged in previous to that post.

Regards,
Lurking’


103 posted on 01/30/2014 7:18:48 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

The Passion captures the essence of everything protestantism IS NOT.

The Passion was Catholic SHOCK and AWE

Thank goodness for your first sentence when I read your second one...

The Passion was Catholic SHOCK and AWE kind of like Popes John Paul II, Benedict and Francis are now.
Oh man I just LOVE that sentence SOOO much! The SHOCK AND AWE Popes!

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam,
Lurking’

Please translate that phrase, it's a rule of the Religion forum. Some of us don't speak Latin.

BTW, John Paul II died some years ago.

104 posted on 01/30/2014 7:27:29 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro
It's been said before the the owner of Free Republic is a Catholic, and also that the Religion Moderator is a Catholic. Who noes?

It's been said, but neither is a correct statement.

105 posted on 01/30/2014 7:30:04 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Syncro

Hi syncro,

you said, “The Bible describes it different.” regarding once saved always saved.

Well I must tell you that most of the protestants I know do not believe once saved always saved.

In fact every one that I have had conversations with confess that they work out their salvation with “fear and trembling”.

And from the Protestants I know who have said they are “saved” and then go on to sin in a big way, does that mean that once they confess that they are born again, that they can just go a do anything they want and no matter what they will still go to heaven??

waaaa?

I am not disagreeing with you that other protestants share your belief, just that it might not be as many protestants as you think, but then I’m Catholic.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam,
Lurking’


106 posted on 01/30/2014 7:31:05 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I have heard that Satanist’s steal only consecrated hosts, not what they use for Protestant services. Interesting story.


107 posted on 01/30/2014 7:31:53 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: LurkingSince'98
I Googled "protestant sex scandal" it was the first citation of: About 239,000 results (0.54 seconds)
Do we really want to do sex scandal wars?

I googled "catholic sex scandals" and got this result.

About 6,360,000 results (0.41 seconds)

Less "seconds" and more results.

Big deal. Work on the six million of yours and let the protestants deal with the 239,000 of theirs.

108 posted on 01/30/2014 7:42:40 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro

Hi Syncro,

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam,

“For the Greater Glory of God” Saint Ignatius of Loyola ~1541

The reason I say The Passion was Catholic shock and awe was that it revitalized the Catholic Church in many ways that are still on going.

And I stand by my allusion to JP II, Benedict and Francis, who each in their own way has shaken the Church in different and unexpected ways.

and yes re JP II - He’s dead Jim.

Regards,
Lurking


109 posted on 01/30/2014 7:44:41 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Syncro

Here's a small portion.
From Youngs Literal Translation;


110 posted on 01/30/2014 7:48:44 PM PST by BlueDragon ("the fans are staying away from the ballpark...in droves" Yogi Berra)
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To: Syncro

my point was to reply to Alex Murphys slander that alluded to the Priest scandal as if was still ongoing.

If you read my quote, the number Catholic priests allegations peaked in 1972 and is today back to the levels it was in the 1950s as determined by the John Jay law School Study.

I also point ed out that in our diocese Catholics in contact with children under go Criminal background checks. Can you say that ANY protestant denominations are doing that?

The study I quoted stated that 58% of the clergy abuse in the 1990 was by protestant clergy.

You see it is all right and fine to talk about Catholic clergy abuse but not so fine to talk about protestant clergy abuse.

the “war” if any is on abuse by any vile creature whether Catholic, Protestant or Jew.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam,
Lurking’


111 posted on 01/30/2014 7:53:40 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: redgolum

You must have ‘inclusive’ satanists in Nebraska, not the really discerning ones.


112 posted on 01/30/2014 8:03:46 PM PST by xone
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To: LurkingSince'98; Syncro
my point was to reply to Alex Murphys slander that alluded to the Priest scandal as if was still ongoing.

You got "slander" out of a single word, "recent"? Who exactly did I slander?

113 posted on 01/30/2014 8:09:21 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

you can’t figure that out all by yourself?

and here I thought you were intelligent.

sorry my mistake.


114 posted on 01/30/2014 8:30:59 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

“The Passion captures the essence of everything protestantism IS NOT.”

What would that be?

Other than the non-scriptural portions for dramatic effects it was a good movie. Then again other than the movies “the Gospel according to Matthew”, similar one on John’s Gospel and the “Jesus Movie” (all are verse by verse movies), all the movie accounts of Jesus are dramas and contain truncated accounts or added scenes to flesh out historical accounts. The Passion is no different. If one wants a verse by verse scriptural account see the movies I listed above.


115 posted on 01/30/2014 8:32:33 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

“the essence of everything protestantism IS NOT”, but it is not exclusively a Catholic movie, just a very Catholic movie.

Lots of Catholic imagery surrounding the events of Good Friday, namely the
1) the Agony in the Garden,
2) the Scourging at the Pillar,
3) the Crowning with thorns,
4) the Carrying of the Cross, and
5) the Crucifixion and Death of Christ, all in excruciating detail. (PS all of the above make up the Meditations on the Sorrowful Mysteries when Catholics pray the Rosary.

All of the above are visually interwoven into the Institution of the Eucharist on Holy Thursday, which is shown how the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross is directly a part of His sacrifice in offering the faithful His Flesh to eat, which Catholics do on the Lords Day.

I’ve talked to many protestants about it and they all thought it was Catholic so maybe we are talking to different protestants.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam (for the Greater Glory of God)
Lurking’


116 posted on 01/30/2014 8:51:57 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

I looked at the John Jay report a couple of weeks ago. Good news the numbers are not half as bad as expected. Still not good news, as is no denomination abuse of youth is acceptable.

I noticed the Jay study was sanctioned by the US bishops. Is this correct?

I may also be mistaken but I did not see the report address the failure of various dioceses to stop movement of alleged and confirmed abuse cases. How the Catholic church handled cases was not a focus of the report as I read it. “That” was what I was looking for—How organizations handle offenders knowing you will have bad eggs in any denomination, but whether these eggs are separated from the carton or shuffled to another carton. That seems to be the larger problem.


117 posted on 01/30/2014 8:53:39 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: LurkingSince'98

Sorry for the delay I had to restart my PC after I googled “Catholic church sex abuse.” Shall we go there?


118 posted on 01/30/2014 9:00:48 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: LurkingSince'98

I thought you stated you were an apologist.


119 posted on 01/30/2014 9:03:25 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Syncro

He thinks the movie is Catholic because of Mel Gibson (although I believe Gibson is actually a VAT1 adherent) and his choosing a cast of mostly Italian Catholics.

More on Gibson’s sect of Roman Catholicism:

http://hollowverse.com/mel-gibson/

It is called the “Traditionalist Catholic” sect which frowns on VAT2 and was formed by Gibson’s father.

Our lurker FRiend may be referring to the large coverage of Mary in the movie, non-scriptural passion scenes like Veronica and the large Catholic cast as mentioned above. Other than the above this movie was no different than other Bible movie productions which embellished some narratives to make the drama flow better. Good movie.

If one wants more accuracy verse by verse without embellishment, “The Gospel According to Matthew” another using John’s Gospel and the “Jesus Movie” are good.

http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=41


120 posted on 01/30/2014 9:25:00 PM PST by redleghunter
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