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Carpenter's Wife Returns to Megachurch He Rebukes Christian Leaders Who Supported Divorce
Christian Post ^ | February 17, 2014 | Nicola Menzie

Posted on 02/20/2014 4:40:53 PM PST by Gamecock

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1 posted on 02/20/2014 4:40:53 PM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 02/20/2014 4:42:51 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Gamecock

How dare you agree with me when I’m wrong! You must be evil for thinking I was right about leaving her. (This is Pastor Ron’s alternate alternate alternate personality speaking. Send more money.)


3 posted on 02/20/2014 4:47:57 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Gamecock

I’ve never heard of this couple.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 4:48:02 PM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: Resettozero

Pastor Ron sounds passive aggressive. He could have said these things in private.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 4:51:40 PM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: Gamecock

Marriage vows made before God and family and friends do mean something.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 4:51:59 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: Gamecock
The Carpenters founded Redemption World Outreach Center in 1991 with just three people and "a passion for breaking down the walls of racism, crossing cultural lines, and changing poverty mindsets..." and whopping great wads of cash, don't forget the cash... whopping great wads of it.

For once Gamecock and I are in agreement, the rest of you are lucky not to have these loons in your backyard.

7 posted on 02/20/2014 4:57:21 PM PST by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: dragonblustar
Pastor Ron sounds passive aggressive. He could have said these things in private.

dragonblustar makes a good point.

dragonblustar could have sent R2z a private message.

dragonblustar might have faulty hearing, maybe.
8 posted on 02/20/2014 5:04:50 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Gamecock
Carpenter's then relayed that afterward, he had an exchange with God in which he said he heard the "near audible" voice of God tell him to call Mrs. Carpenter at the facility she had voluntarily checked into "and tell her you will not abandon her."

Translation: Honey, come on home, there's bucks to be made in the house of the lord so don't ruin this cash cow we got goin' for us.........

9 posted on 02/20/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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10 posted on 02/20/2014 5:07:36 PM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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Interesting supplemental read: After Multiple Affairs, Pastor Ron Carpenter’s Wife Seeks Psychiatric Treatment

Psychiatric Treatment?


11 posted on 02/20/2014 5:07:52 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Gamecock
He needs to prove his motivation to his congregation before he goes off and chastises them for their sin or ignorance of the scripture.
Questionable motivations for sure.
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12 posted on 02/20/2014 5:25:04 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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“Marriage vows made before God and family and friends do mean something.”

I agree. I am Catholic and 3 times I was engaged to get married. In my heart I could swear to the guy that I loved him, but I couldn't swear to God that I would love him/stay married to him forever.

I'm 53 and never married. Which is better than 3 times divorced.

The Lord goes on to say that if you divorce your wife and marry another, you cause that woman to comitt adultery.

To you non-Catholics, does His words really mean that?

13 posted on 02/20/2014 5:31:47 PM PST by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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If my wife and I separate for anything other than death, I would not re-marry. We are one flesh; do I really understand what that means? No.

For those that do choose to re-marry after divorce, there is forgiveness for sin. Still, I would not remarry.

14 posted on 02/20/2014 5:38:28 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: Gamecock
had voluntarily checked into a one-year rehabilitation clinic

One year?

Expensive. Ummm. Must have good insurance, yeah.

A lot going on here.

Redemption World Outreach Center

Their membership document is an interesting document to peruse. Based on that and not finding a statement of faith, I think you are correct to ping your "YBPDLN" list.

Interesting pic.

15 posted on 02/20/2014 6:05:33 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: BarbM
To you non-Catholics, does His words really mean that?

That's what it says.

16 posted on 02/20/2014 6:07:27 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field

You may have a point.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 6:10:10 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Gamecock

1 Timothy 3
King James Version (KJV)

Apparently this pastor was surrounded by individuals encouraging him to continue in sin.

Too many pastors keep their pastoral position after a divorce instead of stepping aside and allowing others to take over. Is that not pride?


18 posted on 02/20/2014 6:10:49 PM PST by RginTN
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To: BarbM
I agree. I am Catholic and 3 times I was engaged to get married. In my heart I could swear to the guy that I loved him, but I couldn't swear to God that I would love him/stay married to him forever.

You want a hard saying about marriage? A wife is to respect her husband, and a husband love his wife, "as Christ loved the church".

(The disrespect of men that I sometimes see in the white american evangelical-ish Protestant circles I inhabit is a sin.)

19 posted on 02/20/2014 6:20:28 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: BarbM
To you non-Catholics, does His words really mean that?

The answer to your question is yes…. but here is the problem with your question. It really comes down to a fundamental understanding of what the terms of reference are and what the true meaning of the various words are. What this really comes done to is that before one enters into a discussion on this topic, it means first having a session where everyone discusses and has to agree to the meanings of the words used… to not do so means that people are talking different languages. You said that you never married….or are you just saying that you never signed a ‘certificate of marriage’. What is the definition of marriage? What exactly is a husband or wife? What is the moment in time when a marriage start?…..if you think it’s when you sign your name to a piece of paper, you’re wrong. What is divorce? When exactly does divorce start? Focus on the Family is actually a very good organization that addresses marital issues in Biblical common sense way. Have a look at their answer to this question and you realize how flawed (or at least how difficult) your question is to answer. http://family.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26520/session/L3RpbWUvMTM5Mjk1MjQwMy9zaWQvMnNRbDVzTmw%3D

20 posted on 02/20/2014 7:43:54 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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