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Posted on 02/24/2014 7:28:13 PM PST by restornu

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To: restornu

1 Corinthians 13:11 (LCV)
 
When I was a Mormon, I talked like a Mormon, I thought like a Mormon, I reasoned like a Mormon. When I became a Christian, I put the ways of MormonISM behind me. 

261 posted on 02/26/2014 1:02:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The man should have never gone into politics no matter...


Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

November 8, 2012

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!
 
I must apologize and ask for forgiveness from you all.
 
As you know, we at Headquarters NEVER tell you pew warmers how to vote. It says so right in our press releases. Anyway, we were ALL thrilled to the max when there were two – TWO! – MORMONs being touted in the primaries: Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman.
 
Talk in our upper chambers high above SLC was how our gods were favoring us with these men; who had prepared their entire lives for an opportunity to save this Nation; which so badly needs guidance: OUR guidance even! So naturally, I and the other twelve analyzed and discussed the situation.
 
Consensus was that the voters should listen to the inner urging and vote for the one they wanted; but that seemed to be leaving WAY too much to chance.
 
I decided, that since I am the ONLY man on earth that can hear GOD’s voice, that I would pray for wisdom and clarity in the matter.
 
I hadn’t used the fleece in a while, so I questioned GOD with a test. A paper, with Romney on one side and Huntsman on the other was to be placed by the air conditioning vent high above my desk in the sumptuous office the Full Tithers have provided.
When the air would kick in later in the evening, while I was home, the paper would be blown down and whomever GOD wanted would then be visible on the upper surface.
 
As you can probably guess, when I came in the next day, the paper had landed on my desk, with Mitt’s name on top.
Last night, I was staying late, praying to GOD about how it was even possible that Mitt lost, when the janitorial cleaning crew came in. Being surprised to find me here, they apologized for interrupting me. I said to them, “It mattereth not, as I was about to leave anyway.”
 
As I was going out the door, the foreman of the crew just happened to mention that my office is ALWAYS so neat and tiny, never anything out of place, that they barely have to do anything to tidy up. Then one of the sweepers said, “Except that time in the spring when we came in to clean and found a paper with Huntman’s name on the floor by your desk. We put it back on your desk and left.
 
 
Tommy M.
 
PS Keep praying that Huntsman will add an “H” to his name. Jon looks so dang effeminate!
 
Onward to 2016!!!

262 posted on 02/26/2014 1:04:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The man should have never gone into politics no matter how some try to paint him, he is a good man and did a lot of good in the world but it seems politics was not for him, but many here will choose to dump on that too, that is alright the Lord’s know why we say the things we say, and treat others the way we do...

What good is a Living Prophet® if he cannot ask GOD for WISDOM to lead a fellow to be President?

263 posted on 02/26/2014 1:06:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The man should have never gone into politics no matter how some try to paint him, he is a good man and did a lot of good in the world but it seems politics was not for him, but many here will choose to dump on that too, that is alright the Lord’s know why we say the things we say, and treat others the way we do...

Yup; I was a DUMPER!

Both for his RINOness and his being deceived by MormonISM.

264 posted on 02/26/2014 1:08:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Yup; I was a DUMPER!

I did not cave, even in the face of GREAT pushback, right here on FR.

I'll predict (prophecy?) that like Awhrnold; He'll Be Back!

265 posted on 02/26/2014 1:10:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Just your opinion it what you think and believe I know different not only believe but receive a witness from the Holy Ghost.

***

John 14

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I have made a covenant with the Lord you might have heard of it, it is call the New Covenant and there were things explain to me that I should do if I love Him.

John 14

15 ¶If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Jeremiah 31:31

31 ¶Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Ezel 37

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Heb 12
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

29 For our God is a consuming fire.

The Spirit of God is Like a Fire Burning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDtHf1ZIv5g


266 posted on 02/26/2014 1:11:26 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
To the LDS Harry Reid is the Judas!

You are either ill-informed or a liar!

It has been SHOWN, oh so many times, that Harry Reid is BELOVED by Mormonism!

267 posted on 02/26/2014 1:11:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
If we continue to fight each other well will continue to be under condemnation.

So; I guess you DO repudiate these sayings of your Leaders!!!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

268 posted on 02/26/2014 1:13:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well I am left with the two about you!


269 posted on 02/26/2014 1:14:21 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
It is in the garden the Atonement was made!

Then WHY did He go to the cross?

Can you explain that?

270 posted on 02/26/2014 1:14:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Why don’t you tell Willard that ???

I (and others) were SHOUTING that from the pages of FR!



(Seems like the only guy that thinks I have much power is GW...)

271 posted on 02/26/2014 1:15:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

To the LDS Harry Reid is the Judas!
You are either ill-informed or a liar!

It has been SHOWN, oh so many times, that Harry Reid is BELOVED by Mormonism!

***

Ya there are Protestants and Catholics like that tooo who are Judas...

I know I am not ill inform
So now you all want to treat me like fair game and call me a liar I was always told it was about the Church not the individual glad ya all come out of the closet.


272 posted on 02/26/2014 1:20:49 PM PST by restornu
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To: Tennessee Nana
Salvation was not paid for in the Garden of Gethsemane...

True; as you MUST have the approval of Joseph Smith as well!!


"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]
 
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him.
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
 
No man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
 
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
 




"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

273 posted on 02/26/2014 1:23:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; restornu
restornu; you have MY permission to IGNORE the above statements.
274 posted on 02/26/2014 1:24:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SoConPubbie

1, 2...
GMTA


275 posted on 02/26/2014 1:25:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

I see some of those heads have other little heads speaking through their mouths...


276 posted on 02/26/2014 1:26:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

It is in the garden the Atonement was made!

Luke 22

42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
___________________________________________

That scripture says nothing about any “atonement”

in fact the word “atonement is not even in the New Testament...

and we know how important the absence of words is to you..

atonement is for the Jews not for the Christians..

do the Mormons sacrifice animals ???


277 posted on 02/26/2014 1:26:26 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
Just your opinion it what you think...

Give it UP, restornu.

You say this about EVERYTHING that posted that you don't want to deal with.

I post LDS quotes and you'll call THEM opinion as well!

278 posted on 02/26/2014 1:28:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Judge: the jury will note that the defendant refuses to face facts, and tries to sling mud on the witness.
279 posted on 02/26/2014 1:30:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
I know I am not ill inform

Then you are stupid; since you cannot bring yourself to ADMIT that you've EVEN seen those things before.

If your memory is SO bad; get help!

280 posted on 02/26/2014 1:31:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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