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Yes, Atheism and Conservatism Are Compatible [uh, huh. bye]
NRO ^ | 26 Feb 2014 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 02/26/2014 3:05:25 PM PST by Notary Sojac

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To: ansel12
A conservative atheist is a rare egg, hardly worth devoting much time to.

Exactly, we all know that some exist just like a few gays are GOP voters but they vote conservative without a need to proclaim lack of faith or sexual orientation when they do it.

Its kind of like gays in the military. There have always been some there but when they started demanding recognition for being gay is when they set out to destroy the military. The same can be said for Atheists in the military.
21 posted on 02/26/2014 3:39:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Westbrook

Good questions, and I am no atheist, but these aren’t that hard to answer.
No thinking atheist will discount the effect of religion on human behavior, despite not sharing such beliefs. That can seem cynical and it probably is to a degree. As Voltaire said, “If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.”

Some atheist answers inserted below just to indicate some directions of answers -

Where do your rights come from?
Tradition, the social contract, biology, enlightened self interest, etc.
Why do you wear clothes ?
Fashion, social acceptance, desire to avoid social friction, mating strategies, survival, comfort, etc.
Why are there seven days in a week?
A social convention, tradition.
How do you know what is good and what is evil?
There is no such things as good and evil, just biological optimums or the opposite, enlightened self-interest, etc.
If everything came from nothing out of nowhere,
if life is just a curious side effect of an unknowing and uncaring cosmos,
if when you die, you are just so much compost,
then why seek anything other than a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction?
Biological programming towards reproduction and the survival of progeny; biological programming towards the survival of the group, etc.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 3:40:01 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Notary Sojac
Contrast the atheist with the christian or moslem.

The atheist won't kill you for not agreeing with them.

The other two groups have been known to do that frequently, with great vigor and perseverance.

23 posted on 02/26/2014 3:40:11 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Notary Sojac

I do not buy this Atheism claim. Every body has a ‘god’. Whatever any soul places their faith/trust in is their god. It really does not matter in the long term scheme of things, all ‘souls/spirit intellect’ return to the Maker that sent them. And all souls/spirit intellect get the opportunity to return with a blank slate.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 3:45:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Just saw you on another thread getting ready to pop popcorn and watch the Christian denominations go at it.

Guess you were a little premature.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 3:46:40 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: elkfersupper

Communism is based on atheism, last I heard tell it was responsible for more than 100+ million deaths.


26 posted on 02/26/2014 3:46:42 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Notary Sojac

27 posted on 02/26/2014 3:48:42 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: elkfersupper

The atheist won’t kill you for not agreeing with them.


Wrong. Communism’s atheists have killed millions for not agreeing with them.


28 posted on 02/26/2014 3:48:47 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Just mythoughts
Whatever any soul places their faith/trust in is their god.

So, if anybody places their faith/trust in themselves alone, they are either an atheist or an anarchist?

29 posted on 02/26/2014 3:50:03 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
So, if anybody places their faith/trust in themselves alone, they are either an atheist or an anarchist?

Would it matter either an atheist or an anarchist? Sorry we all leave this flesh journey and return to the Maker whether we believe or not. Might as well accept reality.

30 posted on 02/26/2014 3:52:10 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: clintonh8r

Yes, it’s gotten to where it’s noteworthy to see the phrase used correctly.


31 posted on 02/26/2014 3:55:30 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: elkfersupper

Unless you’re dealing with Communist atheists. Also, I don’t recall hearing Christians killing people for disagreeing with them. Maybe in the past, but not today.


32 posted on 02/26/2014 3:57:09 PM PST by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: TheOldLady; Notary Sojac; icwhatudo; DJ MacWoW; onyx; Millennial Lefty; Old Sarge; Darksheare; ...
Courtesy ping for a long-overdue zot of an atheist-pushing a commie, anti-God agenda. That files in the face of Conservatism, based on the Eternal Word of God, and what our Founding Fathers intended. And, suffice it to say, godless atheism is not among the principles of Free Republic.
33 posted on 02/26/2014 4:01:15 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Westbrook
First of all, I think the author's description of his beliefs are more accurately described as agnostic rather than atheist. That said and assuming that to be the case, I concur. As a "card-carrying agnostic" (as Hawkeye Pierce was once quoted as saying) I am happy to take a stab at your questionnaire.

Where do your rights come from?"

Our Constitution and the moral characteristics of our founders and the degree to which that morality can be retained in our culture and present day politicians. (hence my world view that our culture is circling the drain)

Why do you wear clothes?

Mostly to stay warm but also, admittedly, to minimize the envy of others.

Why are there seven days in a week?

Human quantification of our planet's yearly journey about it's sustaining star is just ...human quantification. At the week level, I'm sure biblical utterances had something to do with their ultimate design.

How do you know what is good and what is evil?

I don't know, I just do. How about you?

If everything came from nothing out of nowhere, if life is just a curious side effect of an unknowing and uncaring cosmos, if when you die, you are just so much compost, then why seek anything other than a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction?

That's a question each of us must ask ourselves. The answer defines who you are.

I was an altar boy back when the mass was still celebrated in Latin. I sense that I respect truth more than most. My religious beliefs have changed due to my constant search for truth. At this stage of my life I am who I am and believe what I believe for what I feel are the right reasons. I am always willing to admit that I am wrong as I certainly have a history of that. But I keep searching for truth.

Your beliefs are probably different than mine but that doesn't bother me as I am only answerable to my own perceptions of truth. That is why I am baffled as to why a homogenous group of like-thinkers are so concerned about what I believe.

34 posted on 02/26/2014 4:01:55 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Westbrook
If you’re an atheist, then ... Where do your rights come from?

The fact that I was born human.

Why do you wear clothes?

I would prefer not to.

Why are there seven days in a week?

The observed rotation of the earth and its orbit around the sun.

How do you know what is good and what is evil?

Evil is what tramples on somebody else's life or property. Everything else is good.

If everything came from nothing out of nowhere, if life is just a curious side effect of an unknowing and uncaring cosmos, if when you die, you are just so much compost, then why seek anything other than a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction?

Exactly.

35 posted on 02/26/2014 4:03:38 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: cripplecreek

[ Conservative atheists are the ones who vote conservative and seldom mention their beliefs and don’t seek out groups to join so they can proclaim their atheism.

Agenda atheism is about as compatible with conservatism as agenda homosexuality. ]

NAILED IT


36 posted on 02/26/2014 4:04:01 PM PST by GraceG
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To: re_nortex
"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. "

~George Washington


37 posted on 02/26/2014 4:04:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Notary Sojac
I call BS. Prove it.

I am speaking anecdotally. Where there is a hankering for amorality, there it is atheists and satanists. If you want "proof" and numbers you'll have to drink something stronger than I.

38 posted on 02/26/2014 4:04:56 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: re_nortex; Notary Sojac

Well, bye atheist!


39 posted on 02/26/2014 4:06:41 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: All
"The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased."

Alexander Hamilton


40 posted on 02/26/2014 4:07:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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