It is mindboggling how your religion got you guys to believe what they claim is true and somehow successfully convinced you to ignore what God says in the scriptures...
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
That is some powerful stuff right there...You guys need to let that sink in...It doesn't matter how many good works you do if you don't have the Spirit dwelling in you...
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
If the Holy Spirit does not dwell in the body of a Catholic, that Catholic will not be raised as Jesus was raised...That person doesn't go to heaven, or purgatory...
For your sakes people, learn some bible...
First I need to say you misunderstand my use of charity and humility. You apparently think I understood them as works, which I do not. They are virtues; behaviors observable in a person to see the Spirit in a person. They are not works, but they are gifts of the Holy Spirit and evidence when He is there. Are saying a person can be a total jerk and still have the Spirit in him?
And anyway, the verses you picked out actually proved my point. When two or more bishops get together, He is among them. The thing they have that the average person does not is the teaching office of the Church. When bishops get together, the Spirit promotes authentic teaching that is not available to just any group of Christians that get together.
Were that not so, then how could there be any fractioning of the Church with regard to teaching? If the same Holy Spirit were guiding every small group of Christians that came together, then all would come up with the same teaching on their own. The fact that this does not happen means some group is getting it right and another is getting it wrong. Some group is not getting the teaching direct from the Holy Spirit. All the rest is just figuring out which group has it right.