Posted on 04/25/2014 12:40:56 PM PDT by ebb tide
Anybody can confess to anybody over the phone, internet, etc.
But nobody can give absolution of sins over the phone or internet. Thus the seal of the confessional does not exist. Try scheduling a phone confession with your priest. Please let me know how long he laughs at you.
I beginning to think we’re not even dealing with Catholics.
Blame it on NewChurch. And we now have two new “saints” to thank for that.
Tomorrow will just be another Low Sunday for me. I’ve already unplugged all TV’s for the weekend.
Do you often speak of yourself in the third person? People who do that scare me.
Murron says be afraid. Be very afraid.
Do you think St. John Paul II will replace St John the Baptist as the Protector of Islam?
I’m not saying it was scheduled. I’m saying if the Pope called her to answer a question and then she starts telling him her sins, the seal does exist. The seal is not contingent on whether absolution is given or not. When confessing your sins, you have to be truly sorry. If the priest feels you are not sorry for whatever reason, or makes absolution contingent on making restitution to the aggrieved party, he still cannot divulge that he heard this person’s confession, and certainly not what was confessed, whether it was over the phone or not. If you are on the phone with your priest for whatever reason, and you tell him a sin you committed, whether inadvertently or intentional, would you want him to then tell someone else what you told him in what you thought was a confidence?
Well, you seemed to know what you were saying could be substantiated or you wouldn’t have told me to look it up. What did you have in mind that I was supposed to look up? You were obviously prepared to prove a negative. Besides, I am not making the contention that absolution can be given or not given over the phone. I’m talking about the seal of the confessional where the priest is concerned. This could explain why the Pontiff is not talking.
In a PM, could you please give me the name and phone number of your priest that gives absolution of sins over the phone?
I’m willing to pay long distance versus waiting in line at a confessional.
Thanks in advance.
This is what we're promised.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Forgiveness is guaranteed by God for confessing sin. There's no other contingencies added to it.
No qualifications on who, where, how, whatever......
Now you’re trying to be absurd and have missed the point entirely. These sacraments require certain outward signs to qualify as having received these sacraments. The sacrament of Penance only requires the telling of one person to another his or her sins.
I don’t prove silly negatives.
Admittedly, I was surprised by your silly novelty. Are you a Catholic?
It doesn’t sound like you are taking losing this argument very well. You just keep repeating the same misinformation over and over again. Either that or your comprehension skills are lacking.
Are you? I’m still waiting for you to tell me what I was supposed to “look up”.
Where did I say absolution can be given over the phone?
Why would he do that? That is a silly premise that you are proposing. You don’t lose arguments gracefully do you?
First off I (Verga) am 100% USDA approved MALE. Second please show me where I said absolution can be given over the telephone.
So apparently a Catholic priest is nor even required in the process, nor is repentance nor absolution of said sins.
Once again, are you a Catholic? Did you even read the links you posted?
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