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Shouldn't Bible-believing church leaders be speaking up on "sainthood"? (vanity)

Posted on 04/27/2014 3:47:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

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To: Faith Presses On
Catholics use the term "saint," (i.e., holy), in the sense that you probably do, and in the additional sense of Church-recognized saints.

The Church teaches that we cannot know with certainty that any particular person is in heaven or hell, unless that information is revealed to us directly by God or through his Church.

So, while there are probably countless saints in heaven, there are also a limited number that are formally declared so.

Beatification and Canonization

81 posted on 04/27/2014 5:07:23 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Vermont Lt

Very well said, brother.

Thank you.


82 posted on 04/27/2014 5:07:26 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Responsibility2nd

Their baptisms are useless. The first Baptism is what is important.


83 posted on 04/27/2014 5:09:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vermont Lt

I have seen so many anti-Catholic’s on this site over the years its truly mind boggling.

But they are in strange company as the only people I know who hate Catholics as much are hard core leftists.


84 posted on 04/27/2014 5:10:43 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: IrishBrigade

LOL!!!

It’s *hate* to point out the truth?

Are you liberal?


86 posted on 04/27/2014 5:12:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: arderkrag

I’m reminded of the phrase, “Not my circus, not my monkeys”....


87 posted on 04/27/2014 5:12:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Salvation

Thanks, so were you.


88 posted on 04/27/2014 5:12:58 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Salvation

Of course their (Mormon) baptism is useless. Just like your Catholic baptism.

Look. The Bible is quite clear and specific on baptism.

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Ephesians 4:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


89 posted on 04/27/2014 5:13:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Just wait until they start quoting scripture to you and showing off their mad HTML skills by putting the words of Jesus in red. They insist it’s proof that they are more holier than thou. As a Protestant I’m often embarrassed by those on this site that also profess to be. The Catholic threads are much more pleasant.


90 posted on 04/27/2014 5:14:15 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: usconservative

Roman Catholicism is a religion of control freaks. They will NEVER let you go.

Based on what happened to you without your consent as a baby, they will claim you as long as you live.

Any marks on my soul have been washed by the blood of Jesus and I am FREE. No man nor no organization owns me any more nor can they claim to.


91 posted on 04/27/2014 5:14:28 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Faith Presses On

As has been stated, Catholics do a lot of silly things. It’s not out job to fix them. If they want to spiritualize Scripture and ignore its obvious, plain meaning; let them have at it.


92 posted on 04/27/2014 5:15:24 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
It’s never our place, as Christians, to impose beliefs.

What are ya, man? Some kind of heretic or something? Jesus was always out imposing his beliefs on the Samaritans. Oh wait . . .

93 posted on 04/27/2014 5:17:20 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Responsibility2nd

**Just like your Catholic baptism.**

Whoever told you that? Some preacher who hates Catholics or some unnamed pamphlet?

Christ, founded the Catholic Church on the Apostles telling them in Matthew to “Go out to all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. It’s right there in Scripture.

Why don’t you believe that Scripture?


94 posted on 04/27/2014 5:17:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gumdrop

Thank you for a clear rational response. I hope others will take it to heart.


95 posted on 04/27/2014 5:17:40 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: Faith Presses On
Catholic use of "saint" has caused a lot of ignorance on this most important matter.

The Catholic Church and Sainthood are synonymous, so if you are "ignorant on this important matter" you are not Catholic and it is really none of your concern.

If you are not a practicing Catholic, why would you care what the internals of the Church are?

96 posted on 04/27/2014 5:19:43 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: metmom

**Roman Catholicism is a religion of control freaks. They will NEVER let you go.**

Not true. Christ when he talked about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, let the unbelieving disciples go. And so do we. However, it is a duty to tell the truth and invite them back to the Church.

I’ve done that with you, too.


97 posted on 04/27/2014 5:20:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; usconservative

But the good thing is that, being unwillingly Catholic, you can be prayed out of Purgatory.

Catholics have so many cool nuances that aren’t in the Bible!


98 posted on 04/27/2014 5:21:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: usconservative; Salvation
I am in the same situation that usconservative is. I see it kind of similar to what happened when I was sworn in as a US citizen, I had to deny allegiance to any other country, government... The day I walked down the isle in that Baptist church, confessed my belief and accepted Jesus as the Lord and Savior of my life, I broke allegiance to the RCC. My infant baptism, of which I had nothing to do, became superseded by this new baptism. Since I was in my 30s, I did it with full knowledge of what it meant.

Of course I don't "hate" Catholics, the rest of my family in Spain is Catholic. But I am not worried about finding out that I was a Catholic and didn't live like one, because I know I am not.

We should learn from the persecuted Church. They don't emphasize their theological differences, they are just Christians.

99 posted on 04/27/2014 5:26:56 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Salvation

You said that baptism leaves an indelible mark on the soul.

That is not *not letting someone go*.

That is trying to claim their soul for eternity.


100 posted on 04/27/2014 5:27:42 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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