I’m not Catholic and its not my place to try to impose my beliefs on them.
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Unless you are Catholic, it should be none of your business.
Ignore it if it bothers you.
If Catholics wanted the truth, they would look it up and believe the scriptures. Their belief in saints is irrelevant if they don’t have saving faith in Christ alone for salvation.
I agree with several posters below - not my business.
Clarification needed?
The RC church claims that all persons who have lived their lives in a state of genuine belief in Jesus Christ as their savior - and - have strived toward holiness in their lives, following biblical, Christian guidelines, are saints. We assume such people have met the requirements of Jesus Christ and have been judged worthy of entrance into paradise. More simply put, they are people who have been met the requirements and whose “robes have been washed with the blood of the Lamb.”
Canonization is a separate issue. It recognizes the public lives of persons with heroic virtue. Such persons are worthy of imitation in their holiness. The actual process, however, does require several steps before their names are accepted as “official saints.”
It’s never our place, as Christians, to impose beliefs.
Amen! In the New Testament, a saint was a plain, old, ordinary Christian, who was a saint because he was sanctified, that is, set apart for the service of God.
When Paul wrote the church at Philippi (Phil. 1.1), he wrote to the saints there, with the bishops and the deacons, an organization so simple that it could be described in one verse of scripture. In all likelihood, he wasn’t addressing Roman Catholic saints who had been dead for a long time, had performed several miracles, and voted on by the College of Cardinals...
Ya think?
Catholics do a lot of silly things. I choose not to worry about them. It’s between them and The Lord. It’ll all get worked out eventually.
The Catholic Church doesn't "make" anyone a saint, she only recognizes what God has done, testifies to it, and celebrates it.
The term "saint" comes from a French word, which comes from the Latin word meaning "holy". A "saint" is therefore a "holy person" or "holy one" ... in languages other than English, there is typically no linguistic difference between those two terms.
The word is used in Scripture both in reference to what Christians are called to be here and now, and in reference to departed believers (cf Matthew 27:52) and all believers.
There is a wonderful hymn from my Episcopal chip hood called
I Sing a Song of the Saints of God
That is the proper and true answer as to who is a saint.
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/church/chur3.htm
Lesson 3
GOD’S CALLED-OUT ASSEMBLY
THE CHURCH
Church Members Were Called “Saints.”
[To see an organizational outline of these lessons, click here]
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/church/outline.htm
According to 1 Corinthians 14:33 and 2 Corinthians 13:13 the members of the Church are called _____________. The word “saint” means “a person who has been set apart by God, set apart for God’s service.” Not only are the members of the Church a called-out people (1 Pet. 2:9), but they are also a set apart people (1 Cor. 1:2).
Suppose you were sitting in an auditorium with thousands of other people, waiting to hear a speech by the President. Suddenly the President walks all the way up to the place where you are sitting, takes you by the hand, leads you to the platform, and sits you down right next to him! By doing that he has set you apart from all the other people. He has put you in a very special place and he has made you different than all the other people who were there.
When God saves a person He sets him apart and He makes him (or her) sit in a very special place. Where is the believer made to sit (Eph. 2:6)? ____________________________________________ He has been put in a very special place—in Christ Jesus—and thus God has made the believer DIFFERENT than all the unsaved people.
“GOD HAS
SET ME APART
FOR HIMSELF.” “GOD HAS PUT
ME IN CHRIST
AND MADE ME DIFFERENT”
If I’m really a saint, should there be a difference in the way I live? Should there be a difference in the kind of language I use? Should there be a difference in the way I act in school? Should there be a difference in the way I dress? Should there be a difference in the way I talk to and treat my parents? Should there be a difference in the kind of friends I have (Psalm 119:63)?
?
If there is no difference between me and the unsaved then there is a big question as to whether or not I’m really a saint, whether or not I am really a member of Christ’s church (Compare Leviticus 20:24-26; Deuteronomy 7:6 and Ezekiel 22:26; 44:23).
If you are a saint then live like a saint! Dare to be different! (compare Daniel 1:8).
What are ways that a saved person can show that Christ has made a difference in his or her life? What about the language we use? How do we use our free time? What is our attitude towards those in authority over us (our parents, our teachers, etc.)? What is our attitude towards our friends, our classmates, those who mistreat us? What kinds of television programs do we watch or refuse to watch? What kinds of music do we listen to? Do we bow our head and pray before eating? Do we spend time reading God’s Word? Is prayer important to us or is it just a ritual that we do at meals and before we go to bed?
Has your life changed and become different because of the Lord Jesus Christ? See 2 Corinthians 5:17.
Is it possible for a saint (a saved person) to live like an unsaved person (1 Corinthians 3:1-4)? Why is this so? What should be done about it?
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/church/church.htm
Oh, for God’s sake. Can you let them enjoy their day?
It’s not your job to educate anyone.
I am so tired of the bible thumpers around here trying to force their view of the world on those who might not agree with them.
Can we take on the first amendment here: and let the freedom to practice your religion without four hundred posts debating the “true” meaning of the bible.
It is making this site unreadable.
the RCC teaches something different than the Bible on this:
2156 The sacrament of Baptism is conferred “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”85 In Baptism, the Lord’s name sanctifies man, and the Christian receives his name in the Church. This can be the name of a saint, that is, of a disciple who has lived a life of exemplary fidelity to the Lord. The patron saint provides a model of charity; we are assured of his intercession. The “baptismal name” can also express a Christian mystery or Christian virtue. “Parents, sponsors, and the pastor are to see that a name is not given which is foreign to Christian sentiment.”86 (232, 1267)
Men are not sanctified by reciting Jesus name over them, especially infants who have no idea what is being done nor any meaning of it
Saints are NOT people who live meaningful lives, either, a person can be a wicked sinner such as the man in first Corinthians who had sex with his own mother yet Paul never once said his salvation was not real. A person becomes a saint at Salvation, not baptism or through faithful living.
As for the assurance of a ‘patron saint’ intercession, there is zero mention in the Bible of anyone’s promised prayers and intercession except Jesus Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit. We are called to pray for others, but there is zero guarantee of it.
I did speak up... on two threads labelled “Catholic Caucus”. I must give them credit for having a civilized conversation with me instead of telling me that I was not allowed to post in those threads.
All believers are saints.
And we’re all making it to heaven.
Catholicism is a religion based on being respecters of persons. God does no such thing.
Catholics believe that anyone who dies in the good Grace of God is a saint.
Does that bother you?
“Patron Saints” are supposedly entities you can pray to to intercede on your behalf with God. Although not biblical in any way, these entities can ‘put in a good word’ for you if, for instance, you are an “Anesthetist” and need help with your patient dosing (pray to Saint Rene Goupil) or if you have an issue with fuzzy caterpillars (pray to Magnus of Füssan), or even if you wanted to levitate (pray to any of these: http://saints.sqpn.com/saints-who-had-the-gift-of-levitation/).
Catholics get a lot more “bang for their bucks” than Protestants. Protestants merely pray to God through Christ.
Catholics appear to have a lot more "crazy" fun with God.
We have !
Pope Francis’ sermon for the canonization
Angelo Roncalli and Priestly Celibacy (Pope John XXIII)
Two Modern Saints for the Modern World [Catholic Caucus]
Jokes, quips, wisecracks: John XXIII lived with keen sense of humor
Sainthood rites for John Paul II, John XXIII to be beamed around the world (3D in cinemas, for free)
(Pope) John XXIII and the Jews
Solemnity is the order of the day for John Paul II and John XXIII’s double canonization
Two (soon to be) Saints Who Smiled
Popes John XXIII, John Paul II to be canonized April 27th
Canonization date announced for Blessed Popes John Paul II and John XXIII
Pope Francis signs canonization decrees for John XXIII and John Paul II
Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II to be canonised
The St. Pius X - Bl. John XXIII Connection
Finally listening to Blessed John XXIII? (Latin for Seminarians)
A War Prevented: Pope John XXIII and the Cuban Missile Crisis
Blessed Pope John XXIII [Catholic Caucus]
Wants Honor for John XXIII - Pope Should Be Declared "Righteous Among the Nations"
Blessed Pope John XXIII and Vatican II on Respect for Human Life
Angelo Roncalli (Pope John XXIII) and Priestly Celibacy