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To: HiTech RedNeck

I will make it easy for you...please address these honestly, because no one here has!

2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.

3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.

4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”


102 posted on 05/10/2014 7:20:45 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

These deal with the incarnate aspect of Christ. They would not apply to the Son in eternity.

You are fighting and mocking the incarnation, just as Satan does. Christ “EMPTIED HIMSELF” to become incarnate, making certain things possible that would otherwise not make sense.


105 posted on 05/11/2014 7:50:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fabian

I.e. these all apply to Jesus qua human. His human nature didn’t wish to die. But he chose his sacrificial death for the sake of love. Unless he “EMPTIED HIMSELF” such a thing would make no sense.

You’re dealing in sophomoric sophisms and the amount by which you cannot appreciate what Christ has offered to YOU... would fill volumes.


106 posted on 05/11/2014 8:01:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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