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To: OneVike

speaking of the darkness...it has done a masterful job in convincing gullible people like you in the church that Jesus is God, rather than His son and savior. The original sin was wanting to be like God, able to be independent of Him. Now the apostate church has put that upon Jesus. How wicked!


32 posted on 05/08/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

How is “I and the Father are one” an attempt to be “like God”? Jesus was with God in the beginning: “the Word was with God and the Word was God”.

A glorious mystery, no doubt, but true!


36 posted on 05/08/2014 9:13:44 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: fabian
it has done a masterful job in convincing gullible people like you in the church that Jesus is God, rather than His son and savior.

I'll pray for your eyes to be open. After all even the Jews accused Christ of claiming to be God, and they should know. So why would you then say they did not know what He claimed to be?

here are some verses that back up the truth that Christ is god, one third of the Holy Trinity. I could give more evidence, but your eyes are clouded by your own arrogance, and refusal to read the scriptures as they are given. It takes a lot of twisting of the Scriptures to deny Christ is God.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hebrews 1:1-4 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [ Exodus 3:13-14 Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, "The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, "What is His name?' what shall I say to them?" And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, "I AM has sent me to you."' ]

Matthew 1:23 - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 John 5:20 - And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

John 10:31-34 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God."

Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Philippians 2:6-7 - Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
39 posted on 05/08/2014 11:22:27 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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