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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; stonehouse01
What’s really strange is the dogmatic adherence to sola scriptura, when there is no scriptural support for it.

Hahahahahahaaaaa!

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

-— , but the argument that the catholic position is not based on scripture needs to stop because it simply isn’t true.-—

Mark 8: 5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”

6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“ ‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observec your own traditions!

101 posted on 05/23/2014 2:40:45 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Let's keep the grassroots momentum going ..." -Sarah Palin 4/19/14)
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To: WVKayaker
2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

This passage is probably the verse most commonly cited in defense of Luther's doctrine of "the Bible alone as the sole rule of faith," but it simply doesn't support Luther's doctrine.

Where do you see "the Bible alone as the sole rule of faith" in this passage?

Additionally, the scriptures that Paul is referring to are the Old Testament, since the New Testament was not yet canonized, with some books yet to be written. Is the Old Testament the "sole rule of faith"?

If so, which Old Testament is the "sole rule of faith," the Orthodox canon, the Catholic canon, or Luther's canon? Does the Bible tell us which is the correct Bible?

Fourth, Paul is giving this prudent advice to Timothy, "the servant of God," i.e., a presbyter/priest, or bishop.

Finally, Scripture upholds the authority of Apostolic Tradition and the Church, in addition to Sacred Scripture.

"If he will not listen to the Church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

"He who hears you, hears me." --Jesus to the Apostles

"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." --Jesus to Peter [see also Isaiah 22:22 and Rev. 3:7]

"the church of the living God, which is the pillar and foundation of truth." --St. Paul

"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter." --St. Paul

"Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you." --St. Paul

These verses flatly contradict Luther's doctrine, which is why Protestants seem to be unfamiliar with them, or simply ignore them.
102 posted on 05/23/2014 3:15:56 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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