[piusv]

But they are both described the same way.

I wouldn’t use that argument anymore.

[kinsman redeemer]

Incredible.

But they are both described the same way. I wouldn’t use that argument anymore.

That's exactly why I referred to "credibility" in the earlier post.

You are presented with facts of a distinction, you close your eyes, walk away, and say "They're both described the same way. "

So. I repeat: "Incredible. "