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To: vladimir998

“A woman who gets pregnant 9 times has no problem with fertility.”

I know things were more difficult in those days, but the purpose of pregnancy is to produce children who make it out of the cradle, so I would still say that she AND HENRY had fertility problems.

In fact, as we now know but they did not, the failure to produce male offspring lies entirely with the father. Henry had a lot of wives and not too many children. I know he had a bastard son, don’t know how old he lived to be, but of his legit children only Elizabeth lived a full live. But of course, as I said above, things were a lot more difficult then.

While one can sympathize with Henry’s desire for a son it’s impossible to condone the lengths he went to to get one.

Divorcing Katherine was bad enough, but the rest of it, just awful.

They were really so violent in those days, and it’s amazing how many of the elites who had great power ended up being executed themselves.

I can’t imagine living at such a time, every day must have seemed fraught with peril.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 12:05:49 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

“I know things were more difficult in those days, but the purpose of pregnancy is to produce children who make it out of the cradle, so I would still say that she AND HENRY had fertility problems.”

Nine pregnancies - including stillborn births and live births - means she had no fertility problems. If she were infertile, there would have been no pregnancies.

“In fact, as we now know but they did not, the failure to produce male offspring lies entirely with the father. Henry had a lot of wives and not too many children.”

Actually he had a number of children - at least four of whom made it to the age of 15. Two of those lived to be full adults. Henry acknowledged only one of his natural children: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimate_children_of_Henry_VIII

“I know he had a bastard son, don’t know how old he lived to be,”

if you mean Henry Fitzroy, 17.

“but of his legit children only Elizabeth lived a full live.”

Mary lived to be 42. In her day that was a rather full life.

“But of course, as I said above, things were a lot more difficult then.”

They sure were.

“While one can sympathize with Henry’s desire for a son it’s impossible to condone the lengths he went to to get one.”

Agreed: theft, murder, divorce, adultery, schism. Disgusting.

“Divorcing Katherine was bad enough, but the rest of it, just awful.”

Agreed.

“They were really so violent in those days, and it’s amazing how many of the elites who had great power ended up being executed themselves.”

Because they made that possible by sheepishly going along with the tyrant in the first place.

“I can’t imagine living at such a time, every day must have seemed fraught with peril.”

I’m sure it was - and we’ll probably see something akin to it politically in our own day. God help us!


25 posted on 05/25/2014 12:19:15 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: jocon307
I can’t imagine living at such a time, every day must have seemed fraught with peril.

WHAT???

Have you no MSM streaming

The SKY is falling!!!!

24/7 into your home???

103 posted on 05/26/2014 4:13:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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