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The Coming Evangelical Divide
Keep Believing ^ | 17 June 2014 | Ray Pritchard

Posted on 06/18/2014 7:11:18 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: ealgeone
Oh, yes I am. The opposite-Eve.

Eve disobeyed; Mary obeyed.

Eve cooperated with the Serpent; Mary brought forth a Son who crushed the Serpent.

Eve is described as the Mother of all the living; Mary is described as Mother of all the faithful:

Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus.

This is a brilliant thing about the Bible: this amazing prophetic use of "types" and the thematic coherence all the way through.

61 posted on 06/18/2014 4:16:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (And though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.)
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To: HarleyD
God made us in His own image and we have been returning the favor ever since. </sarc>
62 posted on 06/18/2014 4:37:53 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: ansel12
Ansel12 wants more Mormons in America then, I take it.
63 posted on 06/18/2014 4:42:49 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Oh, yes I am. The opposite-Eve. Eve disobeyed; Mary obeyed. Eve cooperated with the Serpent; Mary brought forth a Son who crushed the Serpent. Eve is described as the Mother of all the living; Mary is described as Mother of all the faithful: Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus. This is a brilliant thing about the Bible: this amazing prophetic use of "types" and the thematic coherence all the way through.

Well, let's see what the Bible has to say about this instead of RCC "tradition".

In Revelation chapter 12, John sees a vision of a woman "clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars" (Revelation 12:1). Note the similarity between this description and the description that Joseph gave of his father Jacob (Israel) and his mother and their children (Genesis 37:9-11). The twelve stars refer to the twelve tribes of Israel. So the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel.

Additional evidence for this interpretation is that Revelation 12:2-5 speaks of the woman being with child and giving birth. While it is true that Mary gave birth to Jesus, it is also true that Jesus, the son of David from the tribe of Judah, came from Israel. In a sense, Israel gave birth—or brought forth—Christ Jesus. Verse 5 says that the woman’s child was " a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne." Clearly, this is describing Jesus. Jesus ascended to heaven (Acts 1:9-11) and will one day establish His kingdom on earth (Revelation 20:4-6), and He will rule it with perfect judgment (the “rod of iron”; see Psalm 2:7-9).

The woman’s flight into the wilderness for 1,260 days refers to the future time called the Great Tribulation. Twelve hundred, sixty days is 42 months (of 30 days each), which is the same as 3 1/2 years. Halfway through the Tribulation period, the Beast (the Antichrist) will set an image of himself up in the temple that will be built in Jerusalem. This is the abomination that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14. When the Beast does this, he breaks the peace pact he had made with Israel, and the nation has to flee for safety—possibly to Petra (also see Matthew 24; Daniel 9:27). This escape of the Jews is pictured as the woman fleeing into the wilderness.

Revelation 12:12-17 speaks of how the devil will make war against Israel, trying to destroy her (Satan knows his time is short, relatively speaking—see Revelation 20:1-3, 10). It also reveals that God will protect Israel in the wilderness. Revelation 12:14 says Israel will be protected from the devil for "a time, times, and half a time (“a time” = 1 year; “times” = 2 years; “half a time” = one-half year; in other words, 3 1/2 years).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Revelation-chapter-12.html#ixzz352YQjexZ

65 posted on 06/18/2014 5:26:57 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ansel12
Who said I was pro-illegal immigration?

You said we need more conservatives. Behold, I present Mormons, one of the most conservative voting blocs in America. So do you or do you not want an increase of Mormon voters in America?

68 posted on 06/18/2014 5:43:06 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

If you want to discuss the Mormon religion, you should search for a thread, maybe you can find a thread on “illegal” immigration at the same time, rather than immigration.

If you support bringing in millions more pro-abortion Catholic democrat voters, well, I think you have said enough.


69 posted on 06/18/2014 6:05:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>Jesus said if you have a dispute, you should take it to the Church.<<

No He didn’t. He said to take it to the “assembly” that they met locally with. There was no such thing as an organized organization called a “church”.

>>Paul says the Church of God is the pillar and foundation of the Truth.<<

Once again, the word used is “assembly”. Those who are “called out”. The organized “church” is a perversion of that concept. Every believer who has accepted Christ as their only hope is part of that “called out assembly”. That “called out assembly” consists of every true believer regardless of where they “assemble” to worship and study.

70 posted on 06/18/2014 6:35:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Revelation 12:17 is talking about Israel NOT Mary.


71 posted on 06/18/2014 6:41:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Gamecock; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; Lowell1775; JPX2011; NKP_Vet; Jed Eckert; ...

Ah that Sola Scriptura crwod, proving again that Sola is simply not sufficient.


73 posted on 06/18/2014 7:17:41 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: ansel12
Did you like losing California as it went from republican to democrat? Are you willing to lose Texas and the GOP be shut out of presidential politics for good?

LOL! The ballot box was rendered moot long ago so you're fighting yesterday's battle. And if the survival of the nation is pinned to whether TX goes red or blue then we've already lost that battle. Time for the next phase.

78 posted on 06/18/2014 8:40:34 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

It sounds like you really put a great amount of thought into that, thanks for the enlightenment and getting us all up to speed, especially on voting being “yesterday’s battle” and no longer relevant, nor are Texas’s electoral votes particularly important to GOP presidential hopes, I didn’t know that.


79 posted on 06/18/2014 8:46:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
It sounds like you really put a great amount of thought into that, thanks for the enlightenment and getting us all up to speed, especially on voting being “yesterday’s battle” and no longer relevant, nor are Texas’s electoral votes particularly important to GOP presidential hopes, I didn’t know that.

You're welcome. Will you now dazzle with how Texas electoral college votes = Presidency = USSC nominations + GOP congressional control = USSC justices = salvation of the nation? Is that the mathematics we've got going here?

80 posted on 06/18/2014 8:49:20 PM PDT by JPX2011
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