Pope Francis Meets Evangelical Delegation

TruNews ^ | June 27, 2014 | Rick Wiles

[Elsie]

It takes time and patience.....Catholics are just now learning how to do this.

SLC looks up to Rome...

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Mr. Millet:

 

I don't think we can ever transcend Joseph Smith or consider him to be a valued personality, but now we'll move on.

I don't think you'll see that among believers in the faith, because there are too many other things that came from him

that are the reasons why we do what we do and we are what we are. That there are unanswered questions, to be sure.

That there are things that I'm as anxious as the next guy to learn more detail on, I really want to know. But in the interim,

 it really doesn't, doesn't trouble me.

We're in the religion-making business, as you intimated earlier, only for a short time, I mean, compared to the

Christian church, which has been at this for a couple of millennia. We're about halfway to Nicaea.

And so, and so in that sense — I remember a very tender moment. I was speaking with — I've been invited

to the Salt Lake Theological Seminary, basically an Evangelical seminary, to discuss a book I had done on Jesus.

And they had read it, and they wanted me to come and just respond to questions.

And it was, it was a very enjoyable couple of hours.

 

The very last question that was asked by one of my friends there was this one.

 

He said, 'Bob, what can we do for you?'

 

And I, I wasn't ready for that question. I said, 'What do you mean?'

 

He said, 'What can we, as Evangelicals, do for our Mormon friends?'

 

And I, I guess my mind could have gone a hundred different ways, but what I came back with was this.

 

I said, 'Boy, I appreciate you asking that. I don't think I've ever been asked that.'

 

But, but I said, 'Try this. Cut us a little slack, will you? Give us a little time.

We're in the religion-making business, and this takes time. It takes centuries.

 

And, and trying to explain the faith and articulate the faith, that doesn't come over night.

We've really only been about that for 20 or 30 years.'

 

 

http://being.publicradio.org/programs/insidemormonfaith/transcript.shtml

[Elsie]

He said, 'What can we, as Evangelicals, do for our Mormon friends?'

[Elsie]

The common denominator for the religion is the Queen of Heaven...

Let's try some easy math:

There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;

If merely 1% of them  'ask' Mary for help just once each day;

that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.

Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)

...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!

Purty good fer someone NOT 'devine'!

[Elsie]

OH oh!

You’re in trouble now!

I’ll get in trouble; too; for mixing metaphors - but your Freepmail will be ringing off the hook!

[Elsie]

I've run in Pentecostal circles for a number of years and there is a lot of their theology that is unscriptural but they know what they've experienced and you can't tell them otherwise.

What ELSE would you expect?

Pentecostals came from Protestants which came from Catholics.

Lotsa common DNA in there!

Many have run in Catholics circles for a number of years and there is a lot of their theology that is unscriptural but they know what they've experienced and you can't tell them otherwise.

[piusv]

I’ve been in trouble here for awhile...lol.

[metmom]

Mr. Copeland is a believing Christian to start, that is important.

He claims to be a believing Christian, as do many people.

Deception within the church

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kcopeland.html

Let Us Reason Ministries - Ken Copeland

http://www.letusreason.org/Wf19.htm

[NYer]

I used to wear one when they were required for mass when I was a kid pre V2.

At what point in your life were you drawn away from the Catholic Church and by which formula?

[metmom]

FOTFLOL!!!!

Nobody worked on me and I wasn’t drawn away from the church.

I left of my own volition and years later came to accept Christ and was born again.

At that point, when I started going back to church, I began attending the Catholic church I was raised in. I also had gone out and bought a Bible, not because anyone told me to, but because I felt the need to.

And I started reading it on my own, not because anyone told be to but because I was hungry to know the word. I was not coached or *discipled* about those things. I just had the conviction that I needed to do that, from the Holy Spirit.

As I read and attended the Catholic church for months, I saw the disparity between what Scripture taught and what the Catholic church taught. And it grew wider the more time went on.

And I was not being coached or mentored by any Protestants and told what to do.

I began attending an Evangelical church on the invitation of a friend and vacillated between the two for several more months until I made the break with the Catholic church.

Someone who is not born again and does not have the Holy Spirit residing in them cannot understand the leading of him in ones life and the enlightening work He does in the heart and mind.

So, no. No formulas. Formulas may lure people from one denomination to another, but they save no one.

[johngrace]

He meets Kenneth Copeland who is the king of the “ God wants you rich “ crowd. If you ever hear him or his friend Frederick Price speak you know they do not read scripture under the Holy Spirit. Who advised the Pope on this decision? Yikes

[Elsie]

At what point in your life were you drawn away from the Catholic Church and by which formula?

HMMMmmm...

So THIS is where MORMONism gets it from!

[ebb tide]

Yet it is by our common baptism as in “one Lord, one faith, one baptism. “

Do you understand what, "one faith", means? I don't think Pope Francis does.

[SpirituTuo]

We have to start somewhere. If a Southern Baptist is pro-life, and willing to pray with other Christians for an end to abortion, then they should all stand together and pray.

It would be foolish for Catholics to say, others of good will, even non-believers, can’t stand together against evil.

[Salvation]

Because I see it happening in growing parishes.

[Salvation]

That’s not what I meant and you know it.

[NYer]

I left of my own volition and years later came to accept Christ and was born again.

You were "born again" on the day you were baptized in the Catholic Church. Scripture is clear that baptism is much more than a mere symbol.

In Acts 2:38, Peter tells us, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." When Paul was converted, he was told, "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16).

At that point, when I started going back to church, I began attending the Catholic church I was raised in. I also had gone out and bought a Bible, not because anyone told me to, but because I felt the need to.

Was this because your family did not have a bible at home? I see nothing strange or unusual about purchasing a bible.

[Salvation]

** I see nothing strange or unusual about purchasing a bible. **

My friend just had a Jerusalem Bible stolen from her car (hardback).

She now has a paperback version — and I personally like the Jerusalem Bible. Used almost all over the world.

[MDLION]

I’m Catholic. Sometimes I watch James Robison in the morning. He’s strongly Pro-Life and you can tell the sufferings of those without the basic necessities of life hurts his heart. I like him. I don’t know Kenneth Copeland as well though I sometimes watch him and his family members on TV. I’m glad to see him listening very intently to Francis in one of the pictures.

[NYer]

I personally like the Jerusalem Bible.

Purchased mine through EWTN. It came with that lovely cover designed for Mother Angelica.

[NYer]

Mr. Robison said he and the other visiting Evangelical Christian leaders talked about diversity and their belief that Roman Catholics and Protestants could work together without compromising their beliefs. Then what's the purpose of ecumenism?

On June 25th, the Pope continued to develop the theme of ecclesiality by explaining the positive and indispensable role of the Church in the believer’s life in Christ. Basically, the Pope emphasized that just as no one comes to faith in Christ apart from the Church, so it is impossible to be a true Christian apart from belonging to the Church. Read More. He continues, here.