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As Moses Lifted Up The Serpent In The Wilderness
The Relevant Christian Magazine | 7/29/14 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 06/29/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by OneVike

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1 posted on 06/29/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

I for one had never seen the connection prior to reading your piece!

Thank you.


2 posted on 06/29/2014 8:03:04 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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I had always seen the connection but also always wonder, "why a snake?"

What's the significance of that?

3 posted on 06/29/2014 8:07:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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4 posted on 06/29/2014 8:11:40 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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The serpent in the garden?


5 posted on 06/29/2014 8:12:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Makes me wonder about those Israelites.

Golden Calf, Snake on a stick, dead guy on a cross...

(Thanks for posting the article. Good information)


6 posted on 06/29/2014 8:13:15 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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This has always been part of my belief.

John 3

13 No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of man be lifted up,

15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life."


7 posted on 06/29/2014 8:14:49 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The snake is Satan whom God told Eve that her seed shall one day bruise it’s head. I guess I could have added that. Mybe I’ll amend it one day.

Snake represents sin, which Christ became.


8 posted on 06/29/2014 8:15:08 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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What's the significance of that?

Wasn't it because God sent fiery snakes to bite people and kill them ? Or did you mean why did God pick snakes to begin with ?

9 posted on 06/29/2014 8:16:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: OneVike

Gotcha. Now clear as a bell. Thx


10 posted on 06/29/2014 8:16:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: Salvation

Thx.


11 posted on 06/29/2014 8:17:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Thank you.

If for no other reason, your response alone is more than enough reason for me to have written it.

The Lord has blessed me much by using me to help you learn something new.


12 posted on 06/29/2014 8:17:30 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Salvation
The serpent in the garden?

I question the assumption that 'snake' and 'serpent' meant the same thing. Was the serpent in the garden a snake?

13 posted on 06/29/2014 8:19:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Post #9 cleared it up for me.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 8:19:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: Salvation
You have always been right to have those three verses as part of the structure to your faith.

Since I was a boy when I first learned the verse, I had known this. It was part of my Sunday School lesson when I was 8.



I must now go do yard work before it gets too hot. Supposed to hit 103 today.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 8:21:19 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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“At that time, to look upon such an image erected on a pole would have been considered repulsive, and many would instinctively look away.”

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Is that also perhaps the reason that people (except for Catholics and Orthodox Christians) are embarrassed or repulsed to see a cross with a corpus on it?

Before the Reformation every crucifix had a corpus.


16 posted on 06/29/2014 8:23:40 AM PDT by 353FMG
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The snake is Satan whom God told Eve that her seed shall one day bruise it’s head.

What does that have to do with the fiery snakes sent by God to bite the Israelites ?

Snake represents sin, which Christ became.

Maybe it's the way I'm reading it, but that phrase seems illogical and confusing.

17 posted on 06/29/2014 8:24:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Salvation
I think it's worth noting that it was a staff with the snake on the staff that they were to look towards, not an empty staff to represent victory over the poison of the serpent.
18 posted on 06/29/2014 8:29:13 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The word for the serpent in the Garden was “nachash” and this is the same word used in the Exodus verses in question except for the first mention when the serpent is defined as “fiery” (i.e. poisonous). The word used there is “saraph.”


19 posted on 06/29/2014 8:30:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Oops. I meant Numbers, not Exodus.


20 posted on 06/29/2014 8:34:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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