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The Pope: We are Christians because we belong to the Church, "can't love God outside of the Church"
http://www.asianews.it ^ | June 25, 2014 | The Vatican

Posted on 07/03/2014 4:10:21 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Ironically per the catechism itself, protestants are included in his definition of church.

But that doesn’t stop the ranters......


21 posted on 07/03/2014 4:43:02 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright; NKP_Vet; zot; NYer; Biggirl; Salvation

Wonk wrote: “Ironically per the catechism itself, protestants are included in his definition of church. But that doesn’t stop the ranters......”

I totally agree. to me the ‘ranters’ here are doing their best to destroy Christian unity and thus are abetting and aiding the work of those who are openly against Christianity.


22 posted on 07/03/2014 4:48:30 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: wonkowasright
Ironically per the catechism itself, protestants are included in his definition of church.

Don't you find it a little uneasy to fib?

23 posted on 07/03/2014 4:50:25 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Salvation
So, pinging/quoting your own posts adds to its credibility?

Romans 8: 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.

24 posted on 07/03/2014 4:55:26 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Every American should feel outrage at any injustice done to our veterans " -Sarah Palin 5/26/14)
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To: ebb tide

Papa! Papa! Papa! Bravo! Ladies and gentleman, we have a pope, and God bless him!


25 posted on 07/03/2014 4:58:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: tbpiper

Faith alone in Christ alone.


26 posted on 07/03/2014 4:59:55 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: wonkowasright

What “Catechism” do protestants have? The Pope is speaking of the One, True, Church! The Holy Catholic Church, headquartered in Rome.


27 posted on 07/03/2014 5:00:30 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
What “Catechism” do protestants have? The Pope is speaking of the One, True, Church! The Holy Catholic Church, headquartered in Rome.

God, are they that dumb?

28 posted on 07/03/2014 5:05:14 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: k4gypsyrose

Just because we honor the successor of St. Peter, the first Pope, does not mean that we don’t have faith in God.

(Remember that Luther added the word ‘alone’ to the Bible.)


29 posted on 07/03/2014 5:05:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: shalom aleichem

“Clearly “the church” owns the concession rights on God’s mercy.”

No, but God sent the Church to be an instrument of His mercy. If it was good enough for Him to establish for that purpose, it’s certainly good enough for anyone who claims to love Him.


30 posted on 07/03/2014 5:06:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Karl Spooner

Church. Christ’s Church.


31 posted on 07/03/2014 5:07:10 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: GeronL

The Church is Christ’s Body.


32 posted on 07/03/2014 5:08:05 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Karl Spooner
>>Cult.<<

That’s a fact. And a pagan one at that.

33 posted on 07/03/2014 5:08:49 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: vladimir998

The beleivers are the church


34 posted on 07/03/2014 5:09:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Karl Spooner

That is exactly what it is and it is unsettling that it is promoted so much on FR.


35 posted on 07/03/2014 5:10:51 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan! (Mrs. Yellowdoghunter))
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To: GeronL

“The beleivers are the church”

Not all those who claim to believe in Christ are fully united with the Church. Sectarians cannot be fully united with what they have separated themselves from.


36 posted on 07/03/2014 5:13:16 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I have never separated myself from Jesus.


37 posted on 07/03/2014 5:16:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: CynicalBear

They will follow it all the way to hell if necessary to protect their man made beliefs. You can see how they are trying to pollute the scenery with lies instead of making the truth be known by the scriptures.


38 posted on 07/03/2014 5:19:10 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: yellowdoghunter

“We believe also in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church. For heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God; and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” (Faith and the Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]). ~ St. Augustine


39 posted on 07/03/2014 5:19:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: CynicalBear

Not true.


40 posted on 07/03/2014 5:20:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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