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To: chajin; dinoparty; SeekAndFind
Simple (maybe overly simple, but simple) answer: if the Bible "contains" the word of God, then there are parts of the Bible that made it in, not on the basis of God's will, but human cultural additions. To put it even more simply, if the Bible "contains" the word of God, you don't have to worry about all those silly anti-homosexual-act references, or how divorce is a really bad idea, or wives submitting to their husbands (or husbands having to love their wives sacrificially), or how God loves Israel and will whoopa$$ anyone who attacks it, etc., etc.

You are right. And, because we know that ALL Scripture is God-breathed, we can discern that those extra-canonical books (Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical) that some claim to belong along side the rest of the universally recognized writings are NOT Scripture. Of course, some want to make a big issue over these books and imply that "they" have the whole Bible unlike those of us who are missing out and, somehow, this proves their claim to be the one, true church. But, we know that God would never make mistakes - of which those extra books contain many such errors - and He would never contradict Himself. The prophets of old whom God used to reveal His sacred word KNEW they were speaking as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. You will find no such assurance from the writers of those seven books - if they are even known (some leave open the identity of the author). That is how we CAN know that the 66 book canon is the correct one and, as such, we CAN have assurance that what God tells us is the truth.

45 posted on 07/21/2014 2:34:57 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
You are right. And, because we know that ALL Scripture is God-breathed, we can discern that those extra-canonical books
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
What scripture is this?
47 posted on 07/21/2014 2:48:22 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: boatbums

You are right. And, because we know that ALL Scripture is God-breathed, we can discern that those extra-canonical books (Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical) that some claim to belong along side the rest of the universally recognized writings are NOT Scripture. Of course, some want to make a big issue over these books and imply that “they” have the whole Bible unlike those of us who are missing out and, somehow, this proves their claim to be the one, true church

“some claim to belong....” LOL, WHO IS THIS SOME? well, only all of Christendom for the first 1,500 years of Church History. funny how no one could “discern” that these books weren’t Scripture, yet we are assured that its obvious they aren’t. SERIOUSLY?? Think of the arrogance contained in that statement. The whole Universal Church, led to all truth by the Holy Spirit, could not see these books were not Scripture. Think what that says about God, He is unable to keep His Word pure. So if the early Church could not correctly understand the OT canon, we can have no assurance they got the 27 book NT canon correct, can we?
of course the Bible wasn’t the only object of the 16th century inventions, the doctrine of baptismal regeneration, the Eucharist, sacred tradition , unity of the Church and a whole host of other doctrines all came under assault.

how far this is from the prayer of Jesus in John 17.

how far this is from Paul’s command to the Corinthians to be of one mind and all agree in doctrine.


78 posted on 07/21/2014 7:42:30 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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