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"Who am I to judge?"
1 posted on 07/23/2014 7:19:07 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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And he [Pope Francsis] said, ‘You know you don’t need, you don’t need to be in the Church, you are part of the Church, you don’t physically need to be in it, inside it you know to be part of God’s family like.’

Why am I not surpirsed?

2 posted on 07/23/2014 7:23:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Why would people who are in their own words irreconcilably angry at some organization lie about it?

Why, that’s the biggest mystery in the world.

Maybe I’ve not kept up, but I don’t think any other pope in recent years has attempted personal pastoral counseling with the laity. The problem comes with trying to assert dual roles of personal pastoral counseling and official spokesman of the entire Roman church. I think these practical results show that the roles are not compatible! It invites liars to not just break the confidence of a pastor, but to smear the entire organization. Of course Crazy Evangelicals question the need for a Pope in the first place.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 7:37:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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You just did,why are you angry at the church.?


6 posted on 07/23/2014 7:49:00 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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You are misunderstanding Pope Francis’s meaning.


13 posted on 07/23/2014 8:02:22 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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And he [Pope Francsis] said, ‘You know you don’t need, you don’t need to be in the Church, you are part of the Church, you don’t physically need to be in it, inside it you know to be part of God’s family like.’

I feel like the author is Roseanne Roseannadanna. The pope didn't say someone should be outside the Church. He acknowledged her as a Catholic and responded to the pain she felt having been sexually abused "at the hands of a curate in the archdiocese of Dublin." In other words he was addressing, quite specifically, her physical presence in an actual physical church as not being necessary under her conditions so as to not cause her any more pain.

Sheesh. I'm not even Catholic and it's clear to me that he was giving her a dispensation for relief. And to those of you who say it's because I'm not Catholic that I agree with the Pope - do you even hear what you're saying? LOL!

18 posted on 07/23/2014 8:18:34 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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This Southern Baptist has never seen anyone have their words twisted and misinterpreted as much as this pope. It’s worse than democrats slandering their opponents during a close political campaign.

Clearly there are forces outside and inside the church that hate and fear this man and want to take him down.


28 posted on 07/23/2014 8:57:42 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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This Southern Baptist has never seen anyone have their words twisted and misinterpreted as much as this pope. It’s worse than democrats slandering their opponents during a close political campaign.

Clearly there are forces outside and inside the church that hate and fear this man and want to take him down.


29 posted on 07/23/2014 8:57:43 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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The lead off quote of this article, 2 Timothy...is one that both Catholics and Protestants should know wasn’t written by Paul. So says Francis’ fellow Jesuit and hundreds of other bible scholars.
http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Paul-Disputed.htm


34 posted on 07/23/2014 9:13:53 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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According to Marie Kane, the Pope “listened intently” to her and “at times seemed frustrated by what he was hearing” about her experiences. Her case was covered in the Murphy Report into the mishandling of allegations of clerical abuse in the archdiocese of Dublin. Her abuser was taken out of ministry but has not been defrocked.

Ping for later

42 posted on 07/23/2014 11:08:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Francis may be a good man and a good priest, but I fear he is a less than stellar pontiff. He seems less than clear in his doctrine.


44 posted on 07/23/2014 11:25:22 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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