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Harvesting the Fruit of the Vatican II ^ | July 28, 2014 | Louie Verrecchio

Posted on 07/29/2014 4:47:36 PM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 07/29/2014 4:47:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Nice story. Thanks for sharing!


2 posted on 07/29/2014 4:50:04 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ebb tide
A priest looking for advice on how to advance the Church

Teach God's Word. He will build His Church.

3 posted on 07/29/2014 5:06:55 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: ebb tide; daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool

But Catholics never post threads that belittle Protestants.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 5:52:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: kinsman redeemer

His Word, is His Church given to Peter and His disciples.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 5:54:26 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: ebb tide
This bishop is the current Bishop of Rome

Well that's just ducky... spifferific even.

6 posted on 07/29/2014 5:56:21 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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But Catholics never post threads that belittle Protestants.

Oh, no. Never.

Not even when the writer of the article includes this in his article.

In his mind, a woman who hides her supposed devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary for fear of rebuke from a heretic “pastor,” and who is steadfast in “worshiping” in a heretical community,

Another hit piece on non-Catholics and Catholics will still be wondering what we object to......

7 posted on 07/29/2014 6:03:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide
He furthermore has been given to believe that he can determine on his own that one outside the Church, with no possibility of being absolved from his or her sins “faces the Lord,” the presumption being that such a person is fine where they are; outside of the solitary Ark of Salvation.

And just what the heck is "the solitary Ark of Salvation"?

Besides another term never found in Scripture.

Salvation is through Christ and faith in Him and nowhere is He called *the Ark of Salvation*.

8 posted on 07/29/2014 6:06:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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As much as the writer dislikes Protestants, he dislikes the bishop too. Perhaps even more (as he should know better). It is a wonder that God chose this bishop to be Pope! (I guess He didn’t consult with the author of this piece about it.)


9 posted on 07/29/2014 6:08:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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It is a wonder that God chose this bishop to be Pope!

God didn't choose the pope any more than He chooses the POTUS. We've had bad popes and good popes, we've had bad presidents and good presidents. A bad president doesn't mean we should start pledging our allegiance to a foreign flag just like a bad pope doesn't mean we bail on the Church.

10 posted on 07/29/2014 6:15:30 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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He furthermore has been given to believe that he can determine on his own that one outside the Church, with no possibility of being absolved from his or her sins “faces the Lord,” the presumption being that such a person is fine where they are; outside of the solitary Ark of Salvation.

Well, here we have another *No salvation outside the Catholic church* statement.

And for all the grief I keep getting for stating that, when a Catholic does, it's no big deal.

11 posted on 07/29/2014 6:16:28 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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God didn't choose the pope any more than He chooses the POTUS.

OK.

So then what? It's a popularity contest?

Should they go back to drawing lots and hope for the best?

Catholics claim the church is necessary for salvation, that they're Christ's representatives on earth, that the Holy Spirit guides them thorough the clergy and God didn't choose the pope?

Who then? Satan? Blind luck?

And Catholics expect people to convert to Catholicism as being the OTC when God doesn't choose the leadership it has?

That's following men if ever I saw it.

You can keep your man-made and man led religion.

12 posted on 07/29/2014 6:20:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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In his mind, a woman who hides her supposed devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary for fear of rebuke from a heretic “pastor,” and who is steadfast in “worshiping” in a heretical community, has undergone a “reconciliation with the Church”

Here then is a possible answer to a perplexing mystery! After approx. 2,000 years of searching the Scriptures for at least one prayer addressed to Mary or another saint in Heaven, we may have to postulate that the early church did so, but in secret!

Blasphemous, as an unique attribute of God is that He is the only one ever addressed in prayer to Heaven, His throne, to which Christ gained direct access for us by His sinless shed blood, and only God is ever shown able to hear and respond to the multitudinous incessant prayers to Heaven.

But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. (Jeremiah 44:17)

As for the charge of evangelical pastor being a heretic,that belongs to Rome, as she is the invisible church in Scripture, as her distinctives, from pastors titled "priests" to a perpetual infallible magisterium, are simply not seen therein.

13 posted on 07/29/2014 6:35:05 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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spifferific

Nice combo effect. Excelific, in fact. :o)

14 posted on 07/29/2014 6:46:42 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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And just what the heck is "the solitary Ark of Salvation"?

You answered your own question in your Posts 11 and 12.

Take it easy. The primary target of this article is a Catholic Pope who hasn't and still doesn't practice his faith and refuses to exercise his role as a shepherd of souls.

Papa Tango is your friend!

15 posted on 07/29/2014 7:01:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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After approx. 2,000 years of searching the Scriptures...

Just how old are you, Moses?

And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Luke 1:28

And she [Elizabeth] cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. Luke 1:42

Did Luther exclude the above from your bible?

16 posted on 07/29/2014 7:15:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Show us one prayer to anyone but God or one command or even permission given to pray to anyone but God.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 7:20:57 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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I just did.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 7:24:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Here's a command:

After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. John 19:27

19 posted on 07/29/2014 7:31:02 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: metmom; CynicalBear

Just part of the institutional hypocrisy that is Rome.


20 posted on 07/29/2014 7:38:22 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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