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You Might Want to Fact-Check Your Pastor’s Sermon
FaithStreet ^ | July 25, 2014 | Bob Smietana

Posted on 08/04/2014 7:55:41 AM PDT by Gamecock

A few weeks ago, my teenage daughter laid down the law.

No more Tweeting in church, she told me. No surfing the web or sneaking a peak at a Facebook game on my phone. And most important of all — no more fact-checking the pastor’s sermon.

One of the dangers of being a reporter is that you don’t trust anyone. We live by a rule made famous at the now-shuttered City News Bureau in Chicago: “If your mother says she loves you, check it out.”

Reporters know that just because someone — even a pastor — says something is true doesn’t make it so. That can be a problem in church. Not so much when it comes to matters of faith — there’s no fact-checking those. The trouble comes with more mundane things, the anecdotes and factoids that pastors like to sprinkle into their messages.

Take this lovely story I heard in a sermon recently:

A gardener was working a nobleman’s English estate when he noticed that a young boy had fallen in the pool and was drowning. The quick-thinking gardener dropped his tools, leapt into the pool, and saved the boy from drowning.

The boy, as it turned out, was a young Winston Churchill.

Churchill’s father was so reportedly so grateful that he made this offer to the gardener: I will pay for your son to go to college.

Years later, Churchill was afflicted with a terrible case of pneumonia and was near death. Fortunately, a new miracle drug called penicillin was available, and it saved Churchill’s life.

Here’s the best part: That miracle drug was invented by Alexander Fleming, the son of a poor gardener — the very same gardener who had saved Churchill as a boy.

It’s great story about the power of a good deed. There’s just one problem: Almost nothing about this story is true. It’s one of the most popular myths about Churchill, according Snopes.com and the Downers Grove, Illinois-based Churchill Centre.

How do I know this?

During the sermon, I stopped listening to the pastor and instead turned my eyes on my cell phone. Something about the story just didn’t sit right — it was too good to be true. So whatever spiritual lesson I was supposed to learn in the sermon was soon overshadowed by the wisdom of a Google search.

Things get even worse when a pastor starts quoting statistics.

I’ve heard most of these in church or seen them in the pages of Christian publications. You may have heard a few of them, too:

None of these statistics is true.

People who go to church have lower divorce rates, churches in the U.S. aren’t dying out, 80 percent of young people who read the Bible or go to church aren’t shacking up, and Facebook isn’t ruining a third of U.S. marriages.

And that stat about Christians who think youth groups are bad for teenagers comes from an online, unscientific survey by a Christian nonprofit that believes youth groups are unbiblical. So they created a survey that produced some statistics to prove their point.

To be fair, it’s not just preachers who love bad statistics or mythical anecdotes. As Stephen Colbert might put it, politicians and pundits and Hollywood executives embrace this kind of truthiness because it works.

Truthiness wins elections, sells books by the truckload, and creates blockbusters. It may even save a few souls along the way. But it will not set us free. And it often leads to bad decision-making.

Take divorce. If you think that half of marriages end in divorce, then why not bail when things get tough, says author Shaunti Feldhahn, author of The Good News about Marriage. But if you realize that most marriages make it — as Feldhahn points out, 72 percent of married people are still married to their first spouse — you are more likely to hang in there when things get tough.

Likewise, if you think that the church in the United States is dying — it’s not, says my boss Ed Stetzer — then you might be tempted to lose hope. Bad statistics, he says, can “demoralize God’s people.”

Allow me to engage in a bit of cliché here and quote from the late, great C.S. Lewis. In The Screwtape Letters, first published in the 1940s, Lewis impersonates an elder demon who is giving advice on how to lead people astray.

One of the devil’s best tools, Lewis says, is misdirection. Get people to believe what they think is true, rather than what really is true: “The game is to have them all running around with fire extinguishers whenever there’s a flood; and all crowding to that side of the boat which is already nearly gone under.”

For me, however, the worst part about bad facts in church — or in religious publications — is that they are so distracting. I come to church to pray, to listen, and to set aside the worries of everyday life and focus on things eternal. Tell me a bad fact and I’m gone, off on a rabbit trail, trying to sort out whether a fact or anecdote is true or not — and missing everything else that the preacher has to say.

That’s the last thing my soul needs in this world filled with constant distractions and mistruths. So this Sunday, I’m going to resist temptation. I’ll leave my cell phone at home and pray that the Lord will have a bit of mercy on my fact-checking soul.

But I’ll also pray that the Lord teaches the preacher about the wonder-working power of St. Google and Snopes.com.


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1 posted on 08/04/2014 7:55:41 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

You Might Want to Fact-Check Your Pastor’s Sermon


When I was a new Christian, I attended an AG church. I believed all sorts of stuff simply because it came from the pulpit or Sunday school teachers. As time went on and I continued my own individual study, I found myself disagreeing with them on more and more topics. All of these were outside the basic gospel message, but some have a fairly strong impact on who you see in your minds eye, when you think of God and your relationship with Him.

I now scrutinize EVERYTHING I hear from a pulpit.


2 posted on 08/04/2014 8:00:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Gamecock

Indeed.

I get those stories all the time in my inbox.

I suppose pastors get them too! LOL!


3 posted on 08/04/2014 8:02:14 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Gamecock

This does not apply to the media when they are presented stuff by the Messiah Obama’s administration.

Anything uttered by Obama is true and requires no checking

(Yes, there are 57 states. You can read about it in Austrian in the Austrian Encyclopedia.)


4 posted on 08/04/2014 8:04:56 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Gamecock

“One of the dangers of being a reporter is that you don’t trust anyone.”

Unless it’s Obama.


5 posted on 08/04/2014 8:05:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

Ya, that struck me too. Do reporters really fact check Obama, are they skeptical of what he says, and look for corroboration?

The Associated Press hired 11 fact checkers to pore over Sarah Palin’s book. Did they hire fact checkers to go through Hillary’s book????

Hard to believe what he says about reporters checking things out also pertaining to favored liberals.


6 posted on 08/04/2014 8:10:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Gamecock

Half of all marriages end in divorce.
72% of all married people are married to their first spouse.

Those two statistics are not mutually exclusive.


7 posted on 08/04/2014 8:16:56 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Beat Lamar! And, if that doesn't work, let's defeat him in the primary.)
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To: Gamecock

The Snopes link goes to something about penicillin for me.


8 posted on 08/04/2014 8:21:33 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Well then you are in the right place.


9 posted on 08/04/2014 8:37:53 AM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: Gamecock
I don't care whether or not the antecdotes are precise, (my Pastor has Yogi Berra Syndrome anyways) - what I care about is if the scripture is precise.
I always carry by Bible and check all the scripture refs as he speaks (I don't care about what it says on the screen).
10 posted on 08/04/2014 9:06:47 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: cuban leaf; Gamecock

Scripture would agree, the most important check is to verify against scriptures....

Act 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.


11 posted on 08/04/2014 9:12:23 AM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: Gamecock
One of the dangers of being a reporter is that you don’t trust anyone. We live by a rule made famous at the now-shuttered City News Bureau in Chicago: “If your mother says she loves you, check it out.”

unless you work for the LSM, just call anyone who is not a marxist RAT a liar. The uneducated voting masses will believe everything that you write or speak. Look at how everyone still says how many things are Bush's fault....

12 posted on 08/04/2014 9:15:36 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: Gamecock
Fact-Check Your Pastor’s Sermon

Nothing could be easier and you don't need Snoops to do it. Judaism and Christianity have the Bible as the finest fact-check available. Your Pastor may share questionable stories and opinions but references to the scriptures can be fact checked with the Bible.

God knows a lot more than Google and is more reliable.

13 posted on 08/04/2014 9:17:22 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Gamecock

Snopes.com is a site run by libs who need their own truth checking.


14 posted on 08/04/2014 9:23:52 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Gamecock

When I fact check my Pastor, I go to the Holy Bible. I do not depend on a Liberal, Leftist website.


15 posted on 08/04/2014 9:25:57 AM PDT by sport
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To: tnlibertarian
Half of all marriages end in divorce.

This isn't true. What is true is that the number of divorces each year is about half the number of marriages. However, those divorces include a lot of "serial divorcers," who have had several marriages and subsequent divorces. They distort the picture, making it appear that marriages fail more often than the actually do.

16 posted on 08/04/2014 9:30:35 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( is)
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To: sport

Where do you check extra-Biblical anecdotes?


17 posted on 08/04/2014 10:44:43 AM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: Gamecock

there are some readers on these blogs that just take things told to them and never question them.


18 posted on 08/04/2014 3:04:16 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Gamecock

In law school we actually had coursework in how to do research, the importance of primary sources, putting things in a flow of historical context, etc. These are relatively easy concepts, but there’s no room for laziness. I believe we should have similar courses aimed at high school aged children. It would teach at least that there are expectations and standards for serious research, and hopefully make for a more demanding “information consumer.” That in turn would make it a lot harder for the snake oil salesmen of our culture, whether religious or political, to get away with their house-of-cards propaganda games.


19 posted on 08/05/2014 8:53:50 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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