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Pope Francis signals support for military action to protect Christians from brutal Islamic jihadists
The National Post / The Associated Press ^ | August 13, 2014

Posted on 08/13/2014 9:57:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Vatican is increasingly indicating support for military action in Iraq to protect Christians and other religious minorities from persecution by brutal Islamic jihadists.

As the world grapples with how to combat the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS), the Vatican released a letter Wednesday in which Pope Francis urges the international community “to take action to end the humanitarian tragedy now underway.”

The Pope’s entreaty came before U.S. defence officials revealed late Wednesday that air strikes and the work of Kurdish fighters had allowed many of the thousands of Yazidis trapped on Mount Sinjar to escape....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholics; iraq; iraqichristians; isis; popefrancis
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1 posted on 08/13/2014 9:57:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am a Papist. Born and bread. However, The fact is that Saddam Hussein killed millions of his own people attacked two neighbors, killing hundreds of thousands more yet it was not a moral war as far as the Vatican was concerned in order to remove him. What has changed in Iraq? ISIS is more open in its’ brutality, but are they any more brutal?


2 posted on 08/13/2014 10:00:28 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Leaders like Saddam are par for the course in the Arab World.

The world was better off when the Ottomans kept the Arabs in line....Some tribes just aren’t good at the self-rule thing.


3 posted on 08/13/2014 10:01:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Pope is a Jesuit. The Jesuits are known as God’s soldiers. Maybe this Pope is ready to fight to defend Christianity.


4 posted on 08/13/2014 10:02:21 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Maybe the pope should call for military intervention to stop muslims. In whatever hole we find them. Then we might get somewhere, otherwise we are just reacting to the fruit of the tree of islam. Uproot it, and burn it to ash, so that nothing remains.


5 posted on 08/13/2014 10:04:55 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All they have to do is stall a little longer and the Christians will all be dead. Problem solved. That’s what it looks like they are doing anyway.


6 posted on 08/13/2014 10:13:50 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will the Pope be sending the Swiss Guard to Iraq or will he be Vatican be raising an army?


7 posted on 08/13/2014 10:46:26 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Jim from C-Town
Saddam looks like a pussycat compared to the ones that followed him

Ditto for Quaddaffi

The ARab world recognizes only dictatorship or chaos, nothing in between

If we had not been involved in Gulf War One, then Saddam right now would be slaughtering jihadis, having defeated Iran with his oil money and would be threatening Saudi Arabia, the birthplace and source of jihadi teaching

Gulf War one lead to 9/11 and to the Islamic state -- GW was a mistake

8 posted on 08/13/2014 10:57:28 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: dfwgator
“The world was better off when the Ottomans kept the Arabs in line....Some tribes just aren’t good at the self-rule thing.”
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If you want to see a Persian (i.e. Iranian) or a Turk REALLY get pissed off, watch them if some unknowledgeable soul mistakenly refers to them as an Arab.
9 posted on 08/13/2014 11:02:31 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

He seems to be really wishy-washy with his statements about Israel not protecting itself from the terrorists.


10 posted on 08/14/2014 12:13:50 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One step closer...

What shall we name this Crusade ?

11 posted on 08/14/2014 12:49:06 AM PDT by onona (meh)
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To: onona

The Crusades: This time, we’ll do it right!


12 posted on 08/14/2014 3:35:50 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

The Pope is a Jesuit. The Jesuits are known as the liberals of today’s Church. Maybe this Pope is ready to fight the stereotype and defend Christianity.


13 posted on 08/14/2014 3:56:28 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“What has changed in Iraq?”

One of the points necessary for a “Just War” is that it will not cause more harm than it will end. Has Iraq experienced less harm or more harm since we invaded in 2003? Quite frankly things are much worse there than under Hussein. Hussein was boxed in in 2003 and could only hurt his own people and he was not nearly as bad in that regard as ISIS is.

“ISIS is more open in its’ brutality, but are they any more brutal?”

Yes. Hussein never really targeted entire peoples merely because of who they were. As long as people cooperated with him he didn’t bother them.


14 posted on 08/14/2014 4:31:54 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: FreedomStar3028

The Pope needs to spend some Vatican money.


15 posted on 08/14/2014 5:03:04 AM PDT by rocketmag
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need someone like St.Pius V who led the defeat of the Moslems at Lepanto in 1571.Without Pius V the Moslems likely would have conquered Western Europe.The more things change...


16 posted on 08/14/2014 5:12:45 AM PDT by ardara
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To: icwhatudo

He’ll only do that when he boldly speaks Traditional Catholic Truth about Islam. That hasn’t been done for over 50 years now.


17 posted on 08/14/2014 5:30:38 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ardara

Nah, maybe Francis should just invite the Muslim Imam to the Vatican for some more “peace prayers”.


18 posted on 08/14/2014 5:32:23 AM PDT by piusv
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crusades 2.0 ping...


19 posted on 08/14/2014 6:02:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jim from C-Town

Jim from C-Town:

that was in essence a civil war. There are tons of inter-country battles going on over ethnic rivalries or religion. If history is a lesson, getting involved in a civil war of another country is never a good thing. The first Iraq War was legitimate as Saddam attacked another country and probably would not have stopped. This last war was FUBAR, never supported it, never thought it was a good idea.

What is going on now with ISIS is a cancer that is growing, they are not going to stop with taking parts of Syria and Iraq. They are already moving into parts of Lebanon and Jordan. Saddam was no different than the idiot in North Korea, who has killed many of his own people, yet nobody is calling for an invasion of North Korea.

Saddam was targeting individuals because of religion [Christians were never targeted for simply being Christian], he killed political rivals to his power. He was a brutal dictator yes, but no different than the other dictators over the years who repressed and killed political rivals, yet we did not invade those countries either, Cambodia in the early 70’s is another example.


20 posted on 08/14/2014 7:18:09 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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