Posted on 08/24/2014 10:55:16 AM PDT by wmfights
the reign is literal, the 1,000 years is representative of the entire period from the cross to the second coming.
A literal 1,000 years with a figurative application? Please explain the exegesis behind this.
Please explain how these verses refer to “the church.”
Ezekiel 37:
[16] Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
[17] And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
before responding to this post, please define “Israel” for me that way I can’t be accused of misrepresenting it and this way I can point out any possible inconsistencies between your definition and the Scriptures.
for example, were the Jews Jesus addressed in John 8 in Israel?
what about the Jewish man living in 7th century France, was he Israel?
the Jew born in Ukraine in 1935 and emigrated to Israel in 1948 , are they “Israel”?
was Joan Rivers “Israel”?
>> “the reign is literal, the 1,000 years is representative of the entire period from the cross to the second coming.” <<
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This is not the Sci-Fi forum.
You do a great job of showing us how science fiction becomes doctrine for your cult.
>> “ were the Jews Jesus addressed in John 8 in Israel?
what about the Jewish man living in 7th century France, was he Israel?
the Jew born in Ukraine in 1935 and emigrated to Israel in 1948 , are they “Israel”?
was Joan Rivers “Israel”?” <<
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It becomes clear that you have no concept of a “remnant!”
Every person descended of Judah cannot be a part of his remnant, thus what purpose can there be in running every known Jew through a sieve?
Obviously you are continuing to be facetious, and had no desire for an answer, desiring only to demolish the scriptures.
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You are returning to rhetorical sophistry as in post 217 and 218 line by line using scriptures and YOUR CCC your points (all of them) were refuted. First rule of holes..
When in one stop digging.
1.” there is no 1k year reign in Matthew 24 because it all happens before that”
Wrong. Matthew 24 and 25 clearly covers the whole NT period, culminating in the END OF THE WORLD. you can’t have a 1k year reign if the sun is done and the world has been burned up.
2. “the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place” and a “rebuilt temple”
this is where Dispensationalism goes off the chart into heresy.
where is the “holy place” today? THE CHURCH. 1 Corinthians 3:16 says Christians are God’s temple.
any so called temple built by anyone rejecting Jesus as Messiah in a city called Jerusalem WOULD IN NO WAY BE CONSIDERED THE TEMPLE OF God. any teaching that says it would is an utter rejection of Jesus as Messiah and would be Anti-Christ.
standing in the holy place is a term to signify ruling the Church.
so the period before Jesus returns will be marked by a great falling away and leaders in the Church proclaiming a different Gospel than the historical Faith. hmmm, I wonder where I see that happening today???
3. the devil was bound at the cross. Jesus said you can’t plunder a man’s house unless you bind the strong man. The Church has been plundering Satan’s kingdom for 2,000 years precisely because Satan has been bound and can’t frustrate God reconciling the world to Himself thru Christ. it is obvious Satan has been loosed for a bit here at the end, since we are witnessing wickedness and men’s love growing cold, religious deception on a world wide scale and a mass falling away from the Church.
4. there will be no physical battle of Armageddon. the war is spiritual as shown in Ephesians 6:12.
5. the Scriptures are quite clear, Jesus is reigning NOW from Jerusalem and when he returns, it is the Day of the Lord, Judgement Day. 1 Corinthians 15:23-24 can not be any clearer, Jesus returns, THEN COMES THE END. Just as Jesus Himself describes in Matthew 24-25.
please also notice, when he returns there is no giant battle of Armageddon going on. Just as in the days of Noah, people will be working, farming, marrying, THEN SUDDEN DESTRUCTION AS THE SUN IS DARKENED AND JESUS APPEARS WITH THE ANGELS AND SAINTS.
this refers to John 10, where all Israel will be gathered into one flock, so there is now one shepherd ( Jesus ) and one flock ( Israel )
come on, I want a good laugh. who is “old prince Chuck”?
oh, it is “rhetorical sophistry” to want an answer to who is “Israel”?
kind of an important question wouldn’t you say?
You just stepped in it again!
It says “Judah” and “Joseph,” and the “House of Israel,” which has but one meaning in the entirety of scriptures: The ten northern tribes.
Your lack of Bible knowledge is keeping you stumbling.
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desiring only to demolish the scriptures
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the Scriptures can’t be demolished, but a fraudulent reading of them called dispensationalism can be.
and the easiest way to do this is to demand a definition of Israel as seen by dispensationalists and then compare that answer to the Scriptures.
types and shadows my friend, something your guru Rood apparently never taught you and probably doesn’t understand himself.
how does Rood define Israel?
Sorry, but your lack of understanding has you misusing terms yet again.
“Types and Shadows” are New Testament references to things solidly defined in the ancient scriptures.
You misuse terms constantly, making your posts total gibberish.
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of course it’s gibberish to a rood disciple ( 1 Corinthians 2:14 ) if anyone following Rood understood what I was saying, it would cause me to go back and question my beliefs.
who is price chuck?
We care only how Yehova defined Israel.
You can go to the book of Genesis to discover the answer to that: the descendants of Jacob.
If you wish to discuss anything with Mr. Rood, here is the phone number:
888-766-3610
Your posts are gibberish to Yehova’s Elect.
They have a sweet savor to Satan’s minions.
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YAY! Do you want us to just skip over the parts where the cities will be inhabited? The ancient places rebuilt?
Eze 36:33 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.
Eze 36:34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.
Eze 36:35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
Eze 36:36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
Eze 36:37 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
Eze 36:38 As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
That ain't 'New Jerusalem', pal.
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