[one Lord one faith one baptism]

before responding to this post, please define “Israel” for me that way I can’t be accused of misrepresenting it and this way I can point out any possible inconsistencies between your definition and the Scriptures.

for example, were the Jews Jesus addressed in John 8 in Israel?
what about the Jewish man living in 7th century France, was he Israel?
the Jew born in Ukraine in 1935 and emigrated to Israel in 1948 , are they “Israel”?
was Joan Rivers “Israel”?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “ were the Jews Jesus addressed in John 8 in Israel?
what about the Jewish man living in 7th century France, was he Israel?
the Jew born in Ukraine in 1935 and emigrated to Israel in 1948 , are they “Israel”?
was Joan Rivers “Israel”?” <<

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It becomes clear that you have no concept of a “remnant!”

Every person descended of Judah cannot be a part of his remnant, thus what purpose can there be in running every known Jew through a sieve?

Obviously you are continuing to be facetious, and had no desire for an answer, desiring only to demolish the scriptures.
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[redleghunter]

You are returning to rhetorical sophistry as in post 217 and 218 line by line using scriptures and YOUR CCC your points (all of them) were refuted. First rule of holes..
When in one stop digging.

[CynicalBear]

>>before responding to this post, please define “Israel” for me<<

You really need to read part 12 of this series to get that answered. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3201520/posts?page=4

[daniel1212]

before responding to this post, You mean rather than admitting that you disagree with your own CCC:

please define “Israel” for me that way I can’t be accused of misrepresenting it

Certainly. Rather than Israel only referring to the church, the Israel of God, it also refers to unconverted Jews collectively both before the church and after Pentecost, and which are promised a future collective repentance.

"For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?" Rom 11:15.The "full inclusion" of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of "the full number of the Gentiles", Rom 11:12, 25; cf. Lk 21:24. will enable the People of God to achieve "the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ", in which "God may be all in all". Eph 4:13; 1 Cor 15:28.

When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. (Matthew 8:10)

But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 10:6)

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28)

And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. (Luke 1:16)

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (Acts 2:22)

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, (Acts 4:8)

Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience. (Acts 13:16)

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. (Romans 10:1)

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded (Romans 11:7)

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (Romans 11:25-26)

for example, were the Jews Jesus addressed in John 8 in Israel?

You do not read Scripture? This has been already answered, but it seems you just can't get the straw man you began with out of your head, that imagines we must hold that Jews, the"natural branches," "Israel after the flesh," are saved without believing, so that the future repentance means dead Jews are saved.

the Jew born in Ukraine in 1935 and emigrated to Israel in 1948 , are they “Israel”? was Joan Rivers “Israel”?

Likewise the answer is obvious. They are not Israel, but lost Israelites:

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; (Romans 9:4)