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Pro-Lifers Slam Massive Fines Obama Wants on Catholic Nuns Who Oppose HHS Mandate
life news ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/25/2014 7:09:48 PM PDT by Morgana

On Friday, the Obama administration revised the HHS mandate rules — the first revision since losing to Hobby Lobby at the Supreme Court. The revisions provide no relief from the mandate and essentially restate how pro-life groups, like the Little Sisters, will have to pay huge fines if the violate the mandate.

The upshot of the new rules? As Arina Grossu, Director for the Center for Human Dignity at the Family Research Council, tells LifeNews, it’s “the threat of crippling fines on non-profits who stand up for their freedom of conscience.”

littlesisters2Congressman Chris Smith, the top pro-life advocate in the House of Representatives, tells LifeNews that resident Obama has resorted to coercion and massive, punitive fines against pro-life organizations and faith-based groups that oppose the mandate because, for moral reasons,they cannot and will not include abortion-causing drugs, sterilization and contraception procedures in their private health insurance plans.

“Here he goes again. This new ‘notification option’ announced today is really just another highly coercive regulation—a direct, obnoxious, unprecedented government attack on the conscience rights of religious entities and anyone else who for moral reasons cannot and will not include potentially abortion-causing drugs—such as ella—or contraception and sterilization procedures in their private insurance plans,” said Smith, co-chairman of the Bipartisan Congressional Pro-Life Caucus.

“Rather than protecting the religious freedom and deeply held beliefs of nuns, monks, Christian colleges and charities, today’s announcement just establishes another bogus procedure designed to force people of faith to violate their religious beliefs or face devastating fines of as much as $36,500 per year, per employee,” Smith said.

“President Obama’s means of coercing compliance—ruinous fines when faith-based organizations refuse to violate their conscience—will impose incalculable harm on millions of children educated in faith-based schools, and the poor, sick, disabled and frail elderly who are served with such compassion and dignity by faith-based entities,” Smith said.

“President Obama is arrogantly using the coercive power of the state to force faith-based charities, hospitals, and schools to conform to his will at the expense of conscience,” said Smith.

Meanwhile, Father Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, said the new rules provide no help for his group, which has sued the Obama administration for violating its religious rights by forcing it to pay for abortion-causing drugs in its health care plan.

Pavone said: “On Friday afternoon, it was announced that the Obama Administration has come up with an alternate procedure for religious non-profit groups like Priests for Life, who object to the HHS mandate, to register their objection so that their employees can receive insurance coverage for immoral practices by other means.

“Despite this new announcement, we are proceeding full speed ahead with our lawsuit, which already had oral arguments on May 8 in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and which is therefore likely to be the first of the religious non-profit cases against the mandate to be decided at the appellate level,” he told LifeNews. “We are proceeding first of all because the regulation that burdens our religious freedom is still in effect, and secondly, because what we understand right now of the new rule still burdens our religious freedom.”

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Pavone continued:

“Let’s use a simple example. The government comes up with a plan to arbitrarily imprison children between 2 and 4 years old, and imposes on businesses the obligation to inform them of such children among the families of their employees.

“Any employer with a conscience is going to say, “I want nothing to do with this. If you’re going to imprison these children, you’re going to have to find them yourself. I won’t be sending you any information.”

“In the current case, we are being asked to be part of a process in which employees, if they want, can have coverage for abortion-inducing drugs (among others) precisely because they are our employees. Having someone else pay for it, and registering our objection to it, are not enough. We do not want to have any involvement in the process. We are not going to, in effect, tell the government, ‘Here are some of the people who aren’t covered! Be sure you don’t miss them, or the children they may want to kill.’

“Bottom line: The government is on its own in this scheme to expand access to abortion-inducing drugs and contraceptives. We want a full exemption from this mandate, so that we have nothing to do with this scheme. If people want these drugs and the government wants to provide them, then the government will have to find a way to connect with them without our help. Our religion requires no less.”


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; nuns; prolife
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1 posted on 08/25/2014 7:09:48 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Hitler would be Proud of Obama


2 posted on 08/25/2014 7:18:55 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Morgana
We have a certain road in our neck of the woods that is the location of many businesses, restaurants and the like. There is a Hobby Lobby. You should hear some people I know whining about how they “can't shop at Hobby Lobby anymore because they discriminate”. I pointed out how many businesses and restaurants on that street had cut most of their employees to p/t to avoid paying for any health insurance. And they ignore me. Which proves to me it's always been about Government control and anti-religious sentiments. Hobby Lobby gets treated like this, but the big grocery store chain that has a “hip” following across the road and cut hundreds of employees to p/t never gets mentioned.
3 posted on 08/25/2014 7:25:27 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Morgana

I am not Catholic and am not judging; however, by observation I really haven’t seen much of an outcry from nuns in the media. I was a dorm director in a Catholic institution and I know they can really present their case. I would think that their voice would be listened to by the flock. Maybe they are under the democratic stronghold of the church.


4 posted on 08/25/2014 7:26:21 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Morgana

every christian group ought to join one of three health sharing plans exempt from hhs mandate and forever be done with this.


5 posted on 08/25/2014 7:28:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

The proper response to the Obama administration is, ‘We will not comply, ever! We will not play your game.”


6 posted on 08/25/2014 7:29:26 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Morgana

It seems Obama believes he is god and can do anything. And liberal sheep are his little workers of iniquity. And they have bowed down and worshipped Obama.


7 posted on 08/25/2014 7:47:04 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Morgana

"Massive fines? Barack, you need to redeem yourself."

8 posted on 08/25/2014 7:56:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Slyfox

Good one.

Hope he repents too.


9 posted on 08/25/2014 8:10:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Hope he repents too.

I don't think he will. He has a heart of stone

10 posted on 08/25/2014 8:13:25 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: molson209

He really needs to go


11 posted on 08/25/2014 8:18:10 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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To: Maudeen
. Maybe they are under the democratic stronghold of the church.

Lol. Not the nuns I've known and know. They are, at least in this country, fairly independent. The first thing that happened was OUT WITH THE NUN'S HABIT. Now, you would be hard pressed to know these women ARE nuns.

There are fewer and fewer nuns around GENERALLY, so since they have nothing to lose, they pretty much have things their own way.

I'm around nuns everyday at Mass. That's how I know these things. Finally, I haven't seen a convent around for decades. Most of the nuns live independently.

12 posted on 08/25/2014 8:18:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana

Obama is pure evil.


13 posted on 08/25/2014 8:26:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: cloudmountain

The up and coming nuns wear habits. It’s the new thing and they are the growing orders.

We attend a brunch for nuns sponsored by the Serra Club in the Portland area. I would say that 80 percent of them wear habits.

It’s the new and growing thing!

The old orders are dying.


14 posted on 08/25/2014 8:31:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

It may have been a bit ‘cheesy’ but I love Ros Russel and Haley mills in that movie....The Trouble with Angels. The sequel was pretty good too


15 posted on 08/25/2014 8:34:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: cloudmountain

https://www.sistersofmary.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFiNRvXBQw

http://www.fsecommunity.org/helpusbuild.htm

http://www.sistersofreparation.org/meet-the-sisters.html

http://lhcla.org/


16 posted on 08/25/2014 8:56:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MacMattico

Who exactly does Hobby Lobby discriminate against, people with no Hobbies?


17 posted on 08/25/2014 8:59:22 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a Living, unless you Vote Democrat.)
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To: molson209
OVER 2
18 posted on 08/25/2014 9:11:19 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: MacMattico

I’ve heard Hobby Lobby also starts its employees at double the minimum wage. When I briefly worked at Walmart they paid me $8.45/hr. That’s minimum wage plus 20 cents plus a dollar an hour for third shift.


19 posted on 08/25/2014 9:45:11 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: Maudeen

“I really haven’t seen much of an outcry from nuns in the media.”

LOL, I’m not laughing at you. The media is so tightly controlled and filtered that even if the sisters held placards and stopped all traffic on I-95 by standing in the middle of the lanes, there would be crickets from the “news.”

We are subject to propaganda, not news.

Now, if the sisters promoted abortion or had a tunnel leading to a donut shop, that would be news.


20 posted on 08/26/2014 4:19:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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