Posted on 09/08/2014 6:58:49 AM PDT by marshmallow
this "tripe" was the truth for 1,600 years before there was a protestant...and still is....the truth NEVER changes
“If you desire true and eternal life, keep your tongue free from vicious talk and your lips from all deceit; turn away from evil and do good; let peace be your quest and aim.” - St. Benedict
Yes, but there are no Southern Baptists, and there are no American Baptists.
Yeah it is right before the scripture for the “sinners prayer” and store front churches with pastors in polyester suits.
But Our Lord was a Southern Baptist—
He himself said “the South will rise again” (Matthew 12:42—though you need the right translation to get this exact phrasing).
Who forces you to read them?
I have often compared their behavior to the modern libs.
Disagree and we are called haters.
Of course modern libs are similar to Marxists.
the church, in some recognizable shape or form that is both Catholic and Apostolic, will be there to meet him. There is no such divine guarantee for any country, culture or society of this or any age.
In fact, for the society the Left is busy building the guarantee is the opposite:
Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God. (1 Cor. 6:9-10)
Catholic doctrine doesn't exist to pander and pussyfoot around Protestants' feeeelings. Christ established the Catholic Church and Its been here ever since. I'm sorry if that bothers you, but, well...Lump it.
We both disagree about that. That disagreement is symmetrical, so on that alone neither side has a right to complain about being "attacked". However, Catholic beliefs about the nature of the Church and the Papacy have existed since the time of Christ, -- like them or not. The Protestant ecclesiological fantasies were invented by Luther and the rest of your fellow charlatans around 1500 AD. That part is not symmetrical. Protestantism only exists in order to attack the Catholic doctrine and is useless outside of that silly endeavor.
Bothers me not one bit. Just an observation. My family has suffered worse persecution at the hands of Papist tormentors than the current wave of garbage seen on FR. Like I said, bothers me not, but the Froman Catholics seen to enjoy playing the victim card on every other post.
That Catholics sometime complain too much about theological disagreements bothers me as well, and I am Catholic. But you do understand that the article is not about Protestants being anti-Catholic — that is their right, — but about the secular left-wing state being anti-Catholic and by extension anti-Christian in general, and not hesitating to use the force of the state to oppress us?
Your reparation check is in the mail. Who is playing the victim card, again?
Not I. Reread what I said. Slowly this time.
Christ established the Catholic Church and Its been here ever since.
pretty well sums up the difference between you all and me. Christ did indeed establish the Catholic Church and it has been here ever since, but you folks err in saying it is the ROMAN Catholic Church. He did not establish this paganized and totalitarian ecclesiastical thing you folks are so enamored with.
The Catholic church, meaning universal, that Christ established has been here ever since existing in his true believers, not in the Roman imposter system.
Show me one official Church document that says ROMAN Catholic Church. The modifer "Roman" is simply because the chief administrative center happens to be in Rome. I doubt it will always be there, and in the event that it is moved, the modifer "Roman" will die out. You appear to be focusing on a very minor peripheral and making a mountain out of it.
I read what you said. My previous comment stands for itself.
Christ had designed to conquer by purely spiritual and moral means. Conversion was voluntary, a genuine change in heart and life.
But now the military spirit of imperial Rome had entered the church. The church had conquered the Roman empire. But in reality the Roman empire had conquered the church, by making the church over into the image of the Roman empire.
The church had changed its nature, had become a political organization in the spirit and pattern of imperial Rome.
The imperial church of the 4th and 5th centuries had became an entirely different institution from the church of the first three centuries. In its ambition to rule it lost the Spirit of Christ.
Worship, at first very simple, was developed into elaborate, stately, imposing ceremonies having all the outward splendor that belonged to Rome.
The church became an amalgamation of pagan philosophies. The church lost sight of its true mission.
No, Rome fell but the Church remained. It didn't conquer Rome -- in Christ, we are far more than conquerers (Romans 8). As an aside on the "martial spirit of imperial Rome", one of the reasons Rome fell was because imperial Rome lost the martial spirit of the Republic. The spirit of Virtus was lost, the Equestrian class ceded their role to the NCO class of the legions and so forth, I won't trouble you with the technical details but you get the drift.
"The church had changed its nature, had become a political organization in the spirit and pattern of imperial Rome."
The Bible outlines that Churches should have organization. When you have a worldwide Church, you have worldwide organization. Nothing sinister here.
"The imperial church of the 4th and 5th centuries had became an entirely different institution from the church of the first three centuries. In its ambition to rule it lost the Spirit of Christ."
Says you, or whoever wrote this tripe.
"Worship, at first very simple, was developed into elaborate, stately, imposing ceremonies having all the outward splendor that belonged to Rome."
No splendor belongs to Rome, or the Pope, or America. All splendor belongs to God alone.
"The church became an amalgamation of pagan philosophies. The church lost sight of its true mission."
No it didn't and no it didn't -- the author says yop yop yop, the only response required is nop nop nop.
From inside your Roman fish bowl, it’s tripe. For us outside the fish bowl, it’s quite obvious. I take my leave now. Have a good day.
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