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To: ronnietherocket3
>>Can you list some? I do not know these prayers.<<

Source: http://catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?s=31

O most pure heart of Mary, full of goodness, show your love towards us. Let the flame of your heart, O Mary, descend on all people. We love you im- mensely. Impress on our hearts true love so that we may long for you. O Mary, gentle and humble of heart, remember us when we sin. You know that all people sin. Grant that through your most pure and motherly heart, we may be healed from every spiritual sickness. Grant that we may always experience the goodness of your motherly heart, and that through the flame of your heart we may be converted. Amen.

No asking for her to pray there. Only asking her to do something. "descend on all people"? That's omnipresence. Ascribing deity to Mary.

Dear Mary, my holy mother, I love you so much and I give you my heart. Help me to love God. Help me to love my neighbor as a child of God. Help me to love myself as a child of God. Amen

No asking for prayer again. She is to help them log God but the heart is given to Mary.

My Queen! my Mother! I give thee all myself, and, to show my devotion to thee, I consecrate to thee my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my entire self. Wherefore, O loving Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, defend me, as thy property and possession. Amen.

Wow! Not just not asking her to pray for them but giving themselves totally to Mary. Not God.

Catholics just expect us to take their word that they don't pray to Mary? Not a chance. Don't tell us the Catholic Church says only to ask for Mary and their so called saints to pray for you. The evidence says that's false. Catholics not only pray to them but they ask them to do things reserved for God and also give them attributes of deity. Thus worship.

675 posted on 09/28/2014 7:52:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
No asking for her to pray there. Only asking her to do something. "descend on all people"? That's omnipresence. Ascribing deity to Mary.

What is being asked to descend on all people? Let the flame of your heart, O Mary, descend on all people. The flame of her heart. What is the flame of her heart? The Holy Spirit is frequently described as a flame (flames burn things by the way). In Lk 24:32, the disciples described their hearts as burning while they were walking with Jesus.

She is to help them log God but the heart is given to Mary.

Wow! Not just not asking her to pray for them but giving themselves totally to Mary. Not God.

If you want to know what is meant in Catholicism about giving something to Mary, go here . It has a quote from a Pope.
683 posted on 09/28/2014 8:03:32 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: CynicalBear
Very interesting texts showing the worship of Mary by Catholics. And trusting her for conversion:
Grant that we may always experience the goodness of your motherly heart, and that through the flame of your heart we may be converted. Amen.
The devotees have no need for Jesus, nor room for Him in their lives as they pledge all their hearts and body parts to Mary and get their salvation from her. Sad, sad sad...
688 posted on 09/28/2014 8:11:54 PM PDT by Syncro (The Body of Christ: Made up of every born again Christian. Source: Jesus in the Bible)
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To: CynicalBear

.....”Catholics not only pray to them but they ask them to do things reserved for God and also give them attributes of deity. Thus worship”.......

It’s purely an add-on that ‘placated many pagans’ they invited into the church, who had there own female cults. She was the bait to lure them in.


689 posted on 09/28/2014 8:13:19 PM PDT by caww
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