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The Devil: Is He for Real? Why Does God Let Him Hang Around?
SpiritualDirection ^ | September 22, 2014 | FR. BARTUNEK

Posted on 09/28/2014 2:49:18 PM PDT by NYer

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Editor’s Note: This is another excerpt from Father John Bartunek’s new book “Seeking First the Kingdom” filled with “practical examples and down-to-earth wisdom which will show you how to bring Christ into each facet of your life”.

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1 posted on 09/28/2014 2:49:18 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/28/2014 2:49:39 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

I know that Satan is real. His purpose is I suppose to show us the most evil of all sins , “Pride”. I don’t want to meet him, I only know that if I truly give all to The Lord I can avoid him.


3 posted on 09/28/2014 2:56:30 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: NYer

Satan is doing what God created him to do.


4 posted on 09/28/2014 3:00:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: NYer

it’s not just built-in “tendencies” that nudge us away from God’s grace. It’s not a minor, tendency.

We all run away from God. Our nature is inherently opposed to God. It’s not just mere “tendencies”. The old sin nature runs away from God and good.


5 posted on 09/28/2014 3:02:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dick Vomer

You will never know you gave “all” you could. You have to put it all on Jesus. That’s the only thing you can know your salvation is secure, and for certain.


6 posted on 09/28/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

Satan is quite real. I don’t expect to understand why God allows him to hang out, but I am firmly convinced that God’s reason is more than sufficient to convince me if I knew it and had full understanding.


7 posted on 09/28/2014 3:05:01 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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The Devil: Is He for Real? Why Does God Let Him Hang Around?

Why? Same reason God gave us Pope Francis, Cardinal Kasper, Cardinal Dolan, etc.

To test our faith, while we are still members of Church Militant.

8 posted on 09/28/2014 3:12:49 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

Satan is a sinner. The worst of course, but at base just a sinner.

Before one asks why God keeps the devil around, they should ask why God keeps them around.


9 posted on 09/28/2014 3:15:00 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NYer

Is there light without dark? What is good without evil? Could free will exist without good and evil choices?


10 posted on 09/28/2014 3:26:36 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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What I find interesting and mysterious is how an angel is able to influence, influence and interact with humans. Unless Satan has special powers it implies that other angels can influence and interact with humans as well.


11 posted on 09/28/2014 3:31:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Ben Mugged
If not freely given a gift is little more than a payment.

What do we have that is of any value to the One that made everything?

Only our love.

12 posted on 09/28/2014 3:41:26 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Ben Mugged

“Is there light without dark? What is good without evil? Could free will exist without good and evil choices?”

You’ve been watching Dexter, haven’t you?


13 posted on 09/28/2014 3:49:18 PM PDT by Sparklite
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To: Sparklite

I only watched one episode of Dexter. I didn’t like it. That was a couple of years ago.


14 posted on 09/28/2014 3:56:22 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Dead Corpse

**Satan is doing what God created him to do.**

You’ve got a mistake in your thinking there. God created all the angels.

Satan and his co-horts rebelled against God instead of being obedient.

Thus God cast Lucifer and a third of the angels from heaven. So we get Satan and the other fallen angels — everywhere.


15 posted on 09/28/2014 4:01:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Either God created everything, or he didn’t.

Which is it?


16 posted on 09/28/2014 4:10:11 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Like I said. God created all the angels. Some rebelled and God threw them out of heaven.

But they were angels first.


17 posted on 09/28/2014 4:15:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So, God created Morning Star and his cohorts KNOWING they’d rebell...


18 posted on 09/28/2014 4:16:58 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse; Salvation
Either God created everything, or he didn’t. Which is it?

I don't see the conflict. He did create everything. He created it and declared it "good". Lucifer mutated of his own free will. God didn't create him to do evil but he foresaw the possibility and planned for it. He is omnipotent and can foresee problems we cannot.

19 posted on 09/28/2014 4:19:20 PM PDT by BipolarBob (You can't fix stupid but you can vote them out.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Morning Star is another name for Christ, correct?


20 posted on 09/28/2014 4:19:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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