Posted on 09/28/2014 3:51:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I dunno. I’m not a Mormon, but I read it with an open mind and found it to be a very interesting discussion, as literary discussions go. It was generally not intended to convince anyone of how the Book of Mormon was correct. It was intended to show that the critic in question was wrong. I thought it accomplished its purpose fairly well, if I’m correct about the purpose.
Maybe they just got the time and location wrong? When Jesus returns to save Jerusalem lots and lots of people are killed (1/3 of the population either lives or dies—haven’t figured out which). In fact, I think that anyone who doesn’t want Him as ruler is killed. This past Palm Sunday it popped into my head to study what Jesus was thinking on His way up to Jerusalem. I turned to each of the Gospels and read what He was teaching on His way to Jerusalem.
What jumped out at me and really didn’t make sense was Luke 19. Please read it all and pay particular attention to verse 27.
Remember, Jesus is to be feared by those who hate Him, just as God the Father is to be feared. Jesus is now on the throne to exact judgment and believe me, He is angrier at the morality of this world today than ever except right before the flood? Abortion (child sacrifice) is the abomination that causes desolation.
The Old Testament is full of the lovingkindness of the Father, too. They are the same. Jesus is the Word of God, meaning that He does exactly what God said in the Old Testament.
Interesting point is that GOD DOES NOT LOVE HIS ENEMIES the way we are supposed to. We are actually God’s enemies except that we love Him, He has given us faith in His salvation, and became His children. God does not forgive His enemies who hate Him and do not want to be ruled by Him.
Anyway. The Aztecs and Mayans practiced human sacrifice and their civilization no longer exists. The native Americans probably practiced human sacrifice in Ohio. The Israelites practiced child sacrifice and they were invaded. The people who lived in the Promised Land practiced child sacrifice and that is why the Israelites were given their land. The Israelites were supposed to kill men, women, and children. Nations that practice child sacrifice are not forgiven. Nations. Read 2 Kings 23: 26 & 27 and 24: 3 & 4 It is the only time in the Old Testament that “would not forgive” is spoken.
I actually read the article and I want to thank the author for his narcissistic, machinations, proclaiming himself a teacher of ingrish and barely moving on to the subject.
But, before I go further into the lard if the article and discuss the obtuse reference that there may be meat.
Let me tell you all about me and how I view the failures of my students, when compared to my amazing and stupendous superiority.
I really am just so much clap trap...
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM.
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html
From the REAL papyrus of Abraham ...Verses 1-5
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html
(I/1) [”Osiris, the god’s father], prophet of Amon-Re, King of the Gods, prophet of Min who slaughters his enemies, prophet of Khonsu, the [one who exercises] authority in Thebes,
(I/2) [. . .] . . . Hor, the justified, son of the similarly titled overseer of secrets and purifier of the god, Osorwer, the justified, born by the [housewife and sistrum-player of ]
(I/3) [Amon]-Re, Taikhibit, the justified! May your ba-spirit live among them, and may you be buried on the west [of Thebes].”
(I/4) [”O Anubis(?),51 . . .] justification(?).
(I/5) [May you give to him] a good and splendid burial on the west of Thebes as on the mountains of Ma[nu](?).”
[Osiris shall be towed in]to the great lake of Khonsu,
and likewise [the Osiris Hor, the justified,] born of Taikhibit, the justified,
after his two arms have been [placed] at his heart, while
the Breathing Document, being what
is written on its interior and exterior, shall be wrapped in royal linen and placed (under) his left arm in the midst of his heart. The remainder of his
wrapping shall be made over it. As for the one for whom this book is made,
he thus breathes like the ba-spirit[s] of the gods, forever and ever.
As I understand it LDS owns the Cumorah and has never done an archeological dig to prove there where uhm...horses, weapons made of steel and hundreds of thousands of warriors who died and would have left unimaginable number of oobjects proving their existence.
“Maybe they just got the time and location wrong? “
Do you believe that Jesus killed people while he was on the earth? To me that is a big deal, but maybe you think otherwise.
Cape Girardeau?
This I could believe. Best state in the union.
When we (Prods) care about Catholics we are accused of bashing and hating. That's what the </sarc> is about.
No way.
The only reason Texas doesn’t fall into the gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks and Missouri blows to keep the whole thing in balance. ..
;-)
I’m an Okie. Just a joke.
Worry less about the BoM and much, MUCH more about the Doctrines & Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. Even MORE Mormon SCRIPTURE.
You gonna post your cereal for our FR Mormon friends?
Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle—Shiz and Coriantumr assemble all the people to mortal combat—The Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with them—The Jaredite nation is utterly destroyed—Only Coriantumr remains.
1 And it came to pass when Coriantumr had recovered of his wounds, he began to remember the awords which Ether had spoken unto him.
2 He saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly atwo millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.
3 He began to repent of the evil which he had done; he began to remember the words which had been spoken by the mouth of all the prophets, and he saw them that they were fulfilled thus far, every whit; and his soul amourned and refused to be bcomforted.
4 And it came to pass that he wrote an epistle unto Shiz, desiring him that he would spare the people, and he would give up the kingdom for the sake of the lives of the people.
5 And it came to pass that when Shiz had received his epistle he wrote an epistle unto Coriantumr, that if he would give himself up, that he might slay him with his own sword, that he would spare the lives of the people.
6 And it came to pass that the people repented not of their iniquity; and the people of Coriantumr were stirred up to anger against the people of Shiz; and the people of Shiz were stirred up to anger against the people of Coriantumr; wherefore, the people of Shiz did give battle unto the people of Coriantumr.
7 And when Coriantumr saw that he was about to fall he fled again before the people of Shiz.
8 And it came to pass that he came to the waters of Ripliancum, which, by interpretation, is large, or to exceed all; wherefore, when they came to these waters they pitched their tents; and Shiz also pitched his tents near unto them; and therefore on the morrow they did come to battle.
9 And it came to pass that they fought an exceedingly sore battle, in which Coriantumr was wounded again, and he fainted with the loss of blood.
10 And it came to pass that the armies of Coriantumr did press upon the armies of Shiz that they beat them, that they caused them to flee before them; and they did flee southward, and did pitch their tents in a place which was called Ogath.
11 And it came to pass that the army of Coriantumr did pitch their tents by the hill Ramah; and it was that same hill where my father Mormon did ahide up the records unto the Lord, which were sacred.
12 And it came to pass that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.
13 And it came to pass that Ether did abehold all the doings of the people; and he beheld that the people who were for Coriantumr were gathered together to the army of Coriantumr; and the people who were for Shiz were gathered together to the army of Shiz.
14 Wherefore, they were for the space of four years gathering together the people, that they might get all who were upon the face of the land, and that they might receive all the strength which it was possible that they could receive.
15 And it came to pass that when they were all gathered together, every one to the army which he would, with their wives and their children—both men, women and children being armed with aweapons of war, having shields, and bbreastplates, and head-plates, and being clothed after the manner of war—they did march forth one against another to battle; and they fought all that day, and conquered not.
16 And it came to pass that when it was night they were weary, and retired to their camps; and after they had retired to their camps they took up a howling and a alamentation for the loss of the slain of their people; and so great were their cries, their howlings and lamentations, that they did rend the air exceedingly.
17 And it came to pass that on the morrow they did go again to battle, and great and terrible was that day; nevertheless, they conquered not, and when the night came again they did rend the air with their cries, and their howlings, and their mournings, for the loss of the slain of their people.
18 And it came to pass that Coriantumr wrote again an epistle unto Shiz, desiring that he would not come again to battle, but that he would take the kingdom, and spare the lives of the people.
19 But behold, the aSpirit of the Lord had ceased striving with them, and bSatan had full power over the chearts of the people; for they were given up unto the hardness of their hearts, and the blindness of their minds that they might be destroyed; wherefore they went again to battle.
20 And it came to pass that they fought all that day, and when the night came they slept upon their swords.
21 And on the morrow they fought even until the night came.
22 And when the night came they were adrunken with anger, even as a man who is drunken with wine; and they slept again upon their swords.
23 And on the morrow they fought again; and when the night came they had all fallen by the sword save it were fifty and two of the people of Coriantumr, and sixty and nine of the people of Shiz.
24 And it came to pass that they slept upon their swords that night, and on the morrow they fought again, and they contended in their might with their swords and with their shields, all that day.
25 And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.
26 And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.
27 And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.
28 And it came to pass that when the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.
29 Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had aall fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.
30 And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.
31 And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and afell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.
32 And it came to pass that aCoriantumr fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.
33 And the Lord spake unto Ether, and said unto him: Go forth. And he went forth, and beheld that the words of the Lord had all been fulfilled; and he afinished his brecord; (and the chundredth part I have not written) and he hid them in a manner that the people of Limhi did find them.
34 Now the last words which are written by aEther are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am bsaved in the kingdom of God. Amen.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15
And yet the BOOK says...
Ether 14:22
And so swift and speedy was the war that there was none left to bury the dead, but they did march forth from the shedding of blood to the shedding of blood, leaving the bodies of both men, women, and children strewed upon the face of the land, to become a prey to the worms of the flesh.
To allow them to remain deceived, ignorant and quite possibly in danger of Hellfire would NOT be kind; but quite Satanic.
Some may NOT have learned: yet...
Tomorrow, approximately 3,300 future Americans will be slaughtered - thanks to choosey mothers and serial killers.
Where will AMERICA hide when GOD finally says:
No need to dig; as the stuff is sitting right on top of the ground!
Not only America, every nation that legalized or practices forced child sacrifice. I often wondered how a just God could justify the tribulation. Now I know.
forced?
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