This is from “AnsweringProtestants.” Am I to assume that Catholics believe that protestants do not believe in the Virgin Birth? I have never heard of a Protestant that questioned the Virgin Birth.
Oooohhh Kay.
Maybe your liberal pope, bishops, and theologians will jettison the virgin birth next just like they did with Genesis. Then you'll have to claim that you "never believed that nonsense" and that only low-intelligence "rednecks" ever did.
As we understand “science” today, it means, “demonstrable by replicable experiment.” Where’s your replicable experiment on the Virgin Conception?
If we have to use the word “believe,” we’re not talking about science, in the strict sense. I don’t “believe” what astronomers (or biologists, or meteorologists) say about a lot of things that aren’t subject to replicable experiment. I consider their statements and evidence either more or less persuasive, depending on what else is out there, but always subject to reevaluation.
However, I believe in the virgin conception of Jesus with the faith given me by God Himself.
Sorry...you've proved NOTHING, scientific or otherwise. If Mary had to be "perfect" - and nothing God told us in Scripture says that - in order to bear the sinless human/divine Christ, then Mary's mother would have had to be also. As believers in Christ, we have "the mind of Christ" as it is part of the new birth.
Answer: In 1 Corinthians 2:16, Paul quotes Isaiah 40:13 and then makes a statement concerning all believers: “We have the mind of Christ.” Having the mind of Christ means sharing the plan, purpose, and perspective of Christ, and it is something that all believers possess.
Having the mind of Christ means we understand God’s plan in the world—to bring glory to Himself, restore creation to its original splendor, and provide salvation for sinners. It means we identify with Christ’s purpose “to seek and to save what was lost” (Luke 19:10). It means we share Jesus’ perspective of humility and obedience (Philippians 2:5-8), compassion (Matthew 9:36), and prayerful dependence on God (Luke 5:16).
In the verses leading up to 1 Corinthians 2:16, we note some truths concerning the mind of Christ:
1) The mind of Christ stands in sharp contrast to the wisdom of man (verses 5-6).
2) The mind of Christ involves wisdom from God, once hidden but now revealed (verse 7).
3) The mind of Christ is given to believers through the Spirit of God (verses 10-12).
4) The mind of Christ cannot be understood by those without the Spirit (verse 14).
5) The mind of Christ gives believers discernment in spiritual matters (verse 15).
In order to have the mind of Christ, one must first have saving faith in Christ (John 1:12; 1 John 5:12). After salvation, the believer lives a life under God’s influence. The Holy Spirit indwells and enlightens the believer, infusing him with wisdom—the mind of Christ. The believer bears a responsibility to yield to the Spirit’s leading (Ephesians 4:30) and to allow the Spirit to transform and renew his mind (Romans 12:1-2). http://www.gotquestions.org/mind-of-Christ.html
How can it be proven by science?
We don’t need no stinking science if we have a consensus.
Gad what a painful read.
Twisted, convoluted, tortured logic, if you can even call it that. No scientific proof whatsoever, as if any was needed.
BTW. I’ve not ever heard that Protestants dispute the virgin birth.
If one believes that God created the entire universe, then one has to hold it as child’s play for Him to create a baby or Baby without one little cell contributed by a mere mortal male human.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, and I read one of Obama’s speeches one time.
1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Silly Catholics.
The bits about genetics, the role of sperm, and “female sperm” is essentially unsupported by modern science.
Any chance “virgin” could have meant young and/or unmarried woman? Could a change meaning of the word through 2000 years and three languages have over complicated this?
The Second Person of the Most Blessed Trinity deserves only the most undefiled and holy human being as His Mother.
Christians either believe it or they don’t. Basta!
This kind of religious gobble-de-gook is ridiculous.
Article is anything but scientific.
XX male syndrome (also called de la Chapelle syndrome, for Albert de la Chapelle, who characterized it in 1972[1][2]) is a rare sex chromosomal disorder. Usually, it is caused by unequal crossing over between X and Y chromosomes during meiosis in the father, which results in the X chromosome containing the normally-male SRY gene. When this X combines with a normal X from the mother during fertilization, the result is an XX male.
Effeminate, possible gynecomastia, small imperfectly formed genitalia, sterile, low to nonexistent libido. You're saying that Jesus Christ was intersex.
The lengths some go in order to try and rationalize their Mariology. It's just too bizarre.
God already provided an answer:
John 1:14 (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Luke 1:34-35 (KJV)
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Hebrews 2:14-18 (KJV)
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succor them that are tempted.
Isaiah 55:9-11 (KJV)
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Its futile trying to understand spiritual things from a natural standpoint. Mary simply believed God’s Word, accepted it as Truth and cooperated as God’s handmaid. Contrast that with Zacharias’ doubt and subsequent “sign” to prevent him from undermining God’s plan for John the Baptist.
———This connects to scientific proof of Mary’s perfection, too. It has been shown that groups of cells from infants transfer to mothers’ brains [1, 2], after traveling through the placenta. Because of this, the Blessed Mother must have been perfect, for she literally had, in purity, the mind of Christ.-——
Hummm....Setting up a false premise about the virgin birth....that there is doubt within Protestant churches about the Virgin birth...to prove Mary was perfect....
Geez, reminds me of the “means justify the ends” liberal argument...
If science ever proves that God is real and that Jesus was the son of God and born of a virgin and the Government starts recognizing Christ as king of the earth.
I WILL QUIT BELIEVING.
How can science prove a miracle? A miracle is by definition is something that defies science. When Jesus fed the 5000 if it was just people sharing what they have hid, that would be a scientific explanation and not a miracle. If Jesus “miraculously” multiplied the bread and fish that is a miracle and would be rebutted by science.
Science at it’s best man trying to understand God’s creation. Miracles are when God intervenes in His natural order to preform his will.
And, just as you trust astronomers to tell you about many things beyond earth, you should trust the Church to tell you about God
Ya right...Philosophers are humanist guessers...Your Church is full of humanist guessers...
Why should anyone go to a religion where they guess about God when we can go right to the words of the Source and get the true facts???
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.