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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

Holy Bible graphic

“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians

A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. “I don’t understand the deuterocanonical books,” she ventured. “If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews don’t?” She’d done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptures—which is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a “second” (deutero) canon.

My student went on. “I’m just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they aren’t considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out?” she asked. “And why are Protestants so against them?”

The short answer sounds petty and mean, but it’s true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those “extra” Old Testament books—Tobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the like—because they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, “false writings”), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppress—praying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Here’s John Calvin on the subject:

Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?

However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldn’t very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven “apocryphal” books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.

Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today don’t even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luther’s case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for “adding” phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.

In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.

The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic books—case closed! Still unconvinced? Today’s defenders of the reformers’ biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but it’s all really smoke and mirrors.

The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagint—the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luther’s rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon – 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism – 0.

But this is all beside the point. It’s like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs could’ve been on board Noah’s Ark. Once you’re arguing about that, you’re no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how it’s supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.

I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we don’t have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Church’s teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches “solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings” (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.

Can there be any doubt that this is by God’s design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, it’s true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Word—and we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:

The Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.”

Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldn’t have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:

Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.

Right. The Church says so, and that’s good enough.

For it’s the Church who gives us the Scriptures. It’s the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. It’s the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with God’s Word. Isn’t it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures she’s feeding us with? “No, mother,” the infant cries, “not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!”

Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smith’s remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. It’s a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smith’s epic story receives so little attention.

I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name “Betty Smith” on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.

The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. “It wasn’t nearly as good as Tree,” she said, “and I don’t expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.”

See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.

But Jesus isn’t like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: SampleMan

“So is eating meat, drinking wine, and kissing one’s children. Point?”

That is a frivolous response.

“If you ask me to pray for you, is it my body that does it or my soul? Does my soul die when my body dies? If you think I have an everlasting soul and its my soul that does the praying, isn’t it then consistent to treat all souls alike, whether or not the body is dead?”

I believe this is a serious response and presents an interesting argument.

If valid it would cover praying for deceased people, but not to them.


61 posted on 10/04/2014 1:53:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Bigg Red

I don’t think we need to create rivalries within the Body of Believers.


62 posted on 10/04/2014 1:57:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: annalex

The simple fact is that the Council of Trent ADDED those books 1000+ years afterwards. One should ask what did they know that St. Jerome didn’t know.


63 posted on 10/04/2014 2:44:47 AM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: redleghunter

“The Hebrews hold Torah as the ultimate authority.”

I’m not bound by Hebrew practice or lack thereof. And neither is any other Christian. I eat pork and like it.

“None of the pagan practices of praying to the dead or for the dead is mentioned in Torah, the Prophets or even the Writings.”

Irrelevant. Many Christian things are not mentioned in the Old Testament.

“So linking such necessary functions of human life to non Torah and non NT practices is a fallacious premise.”

No, it is not.


64 posted on 10/04/2014 4:27:13 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: verga

“I can’t remember which Freeper Catholic posted these questions and I apologize to him or her for not giving direct credit.”

I posted similar questions just a few weeks ago. And, of course, no anti-Catholic could deal with the questions.


65 posted on 10/04/2014 4:29:20 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ifinnegan; verga

“Utter nonsense. That is not a serious response.”

Yes, it is. The simple fact is that Protestant anti-Catholics have no problem incorporating pagan practices into their lives which they are too stupid to know have pagan origins. A couple of weeks ago when I asked those questions, the anti-Catholic who I addressed them to, completely chocked on them. He/she refused to answer them. The reason was obvious - he/she had done all of those very things and was therefore a terrible hypocrite. That’s redundant, of course, I already said the person was an anti-Catholic.


66 posted on 10/04/2014 4:34:56 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: coincheck
They are not useless, but they are not scripture. Should we treat them like they are to be ignored and burned, NO. They are worth the time to read, but remember they are not scripture.

Says who? Seriously, who is your authority and why should I trust their opinion?

67 posted on 10/04/2014 5:06:20 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

Your own St. Jerome and St. Augustine, for starters.


68 posted on 10/04/2014 5:11:03 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: ifinnegan
Utter nonsense.

Translation- I have been confronted with the truth and don't have an intelligent response. Drats foiled by those darn meddling super intelligent Catholics again.

That is not a serious response.

Sauce for the goose is good or the gander. If you want to condemn Catholics for "pagan" practices than you darn well better be ready to war that hat as well.

You will find that we Catholics are like a dog on a bone with the truth.

69 posted on 10/04/2014 5:19:39 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga
Drats foiled by those darn meddling super intelligent Catholics again.

Only in cartoons.

70 posted on 10/04/2014 5:24:53 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: vladimir998
I posted similar questions just a few weeks ago. And, of course, no anti-Catholic could deal with the questions.<>P>Confronts protestants with the truth is like confronting vampires with sunlight.
71 posted on 10/04/2014 5:36:47 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Your own St. Jerome and St. Augustine, for starters.

This would be the same Jerome that translated the Bible into Latin from the original Greek and Hebrew, the same Jerome that even though he was not certain bowed to the wisdom of those that came before him.

Would it be this same Augustine that refuted Mani with this quote: "If you should find someone who does not yet believe in the gospel, what would you [Mani] answer him when he says, ‘I do not believe’? Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so"

The same Augustine that quoted extensively form those same "disputed" books in his sermons and refutations of heretics?

72 posted on 10/04/2014 5:59:26 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Your own St. Jerome and St. Augustine, for starters.

The truth is protestants are trying to hand their hat on the same nail as the very people that rejected the entire New Testament. Do you really want to use the OT only?

73 posted on 10/04/2014 6:01:06 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: redleghunter
The Hebrews hold Torah as the ultimate authority. None of the pagan practices of praying to the dead or for the dead is mentioned in Torah, the Prophets or even the Writings. You would have to refer to the A.D. Talmud for such.

And French historian Jacques Le Goff states,

“It then becomes clear that at the time of Judas Maccabeus - around 170 B.C., a surprisingly innovative period - prayer for the dead was not practiced, but that a century later it was practiced by certain Jews.” — Jacques Le Goff, The Birth of Purgatory, p. 45, trans. Arthur Goldhammer (Chicago: The University of Chicago Press.

74 posted on 10/04/2014 6:04:06 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: verga

Over and again on these threads I often find them (some of them anyway) more like

Not someone I should give a ride to.

75 posted on 10/04/2014 6:10:50 AM PDT by BlueDragon (and no, he is not to blame for anything I may say, do or write. Isn't that right, Mein Fuhrer?)
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To: vladimir998
Vlad,

Read my post #24, Mathematician Ivan Panin discovered the heptadic structure in scripture. All scripture has it, each book, cross books, new and old testament, both hebrew and greek, and even though the scripture was written down by 40 authors over a period of 2000 years. It cannot be reproduced even with the aid of computers. None, absolutely none of the apocryphal books have this structure. Therefore, as you rightly state, they are not inspired scripture.

76 posted on 10/04/2014 6:11:50 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: verga

The so-called Deuterocanon or second canon or Apocrypha came to be known as such for a reason, verga, and that reason was that their canonicity had always been disputed, disputed in fact within the Roman Catholic Church right up to the Council of Trent.


77 posted on 10/04/2014 6:46:06 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: annalex
Christianity is about the historical teaching of the Holy Church who witnessed the miracles of Christ, not your theological fantasies invented by charlatan Luther a thousand years later.

No, Christianity is living in relationship to Jesus and acknowledging His sacrifice on the cross for the forgiveness of my sins so that I may have eternal life.
78 posted on 10/04/2014 6:48:19 AM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: annalex; All
Your multiple Christ-denying sects are not bashed enough. Don't like being bashed, learn authentic Christianity from the Fathers of the Church.

You do realize that the threads I cited in my post, i.e., comparing protestants to violent radical Muslims, and the "Scientific Proof of the Virgin Birth" thread, and this thread here, you are here and now admitting that they are indeed designed to bash protestants? Something protestants have been pointing out, with you guys denying it all along. Quite an admission, I'd say.

Protestants are Christ-denying? It is precisely the centrality of Christ and his Word we hold to - and NOT the centrality of Rome - that lies at the root of the difference between us.

Protestants are not bashed enough, you say? Please take note: every time you folks try to bash us, you get it turned back on you. It is the Roman abomination masquerading as the only true church that gets bashed. Give it up, it will always backfire on you.

"Learn authentic Christianity from the Fathers of the Church," you say? Protestants, as you know, believe the primacy is the Word of God. If there is a contradiction, apparent or otherwise, one should always choose the Word of God over any man, including the "Fathers." The Word of God condemns your Roman institution at every step - your Mary idolatry for instance... just for starters, a long list indeed.

79 posted on 10/04/2014 6:58:30 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: RegulatorCountry
Your own St. Jerome and St. Augustine, for starters.

And of course the ever popular: "Roma locuta est, causa finita est." -St Augustine Roughly translated: Rome has spoken, it is settled.

80 posted on 10/04/2014 7:21:31 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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